Dulak
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15 years ago
latest article over at JSonline mentions they wouldnt doubt that at least one teams is looking at bishop.

I was really impressed with capers calls in the preseason; seems like he started getting conservative now in regular games and I dont like it. So far I'm not that impressed with capers.

Capers said he would fit the scheme to the players (he said this numerous times when you was hired on as our DC). Now we have Kampman not doing what he does best ... and thats rushing the passer.

And we have bishop whom led the team in tackles; barely get a snap.

If we lose bishop not only will we lose one of our best linebackers (who knows could even be our best one) - cant even tell because he never plays. But I will also have to change my avatar again.

I want to see some pass rush on detroit this game.
packfan4
15 years ago
Bishop is very overrated, he's pretty much a healthy Abdul Hodge with a little more pop and a little less athleticism. He's nowhere near our best LB, if he was don't you think he would be starting? Or getting more playing time?
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Packers_Finland
15 years ago

Bishop is very overrated, he's pretty much a healthy Abdul Hodge with a little more pop and a little less athleticism. He's nowhere near our best LB, if he was don't you think he would be starting? Or getting more playing time?

"packfan4" wrote:



He isn't starting because the team is afraid to admit the players who get paid more aren't better. Bishop and Chillar would be a lot better than Barnett and Hawk.
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Stevetarded
15 years ago
I don't think Bishop is overrated at all. I don't think it was a fluke that last season he was our best playmaker when he actually got a chance to play.
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Dulak
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15 years ago


He isn't starting because the team is afraid to admit the players who get paid more aren't better. Bishop and Chillar would be a lot better than Barnett and Hawk.

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



ya I'd like bishop to get his fair shake to see how he does in a real game. And not just for a snap or 2.
packfan4
15 years ago

Bishop is very overrated, he's pretty much a healthy Abdul Hodge with a little more pop and a little less athleticism. He's nowhere near our best LB, if he was don't you think he would be starting? Or getting more playing time?

"Packers_Finland" wrote:



He isn't starting because the team is afraid to admit the players who get paid more aren't better. Bishop and Chillar would be a lot better than Barnett and Hawk.

"packfan4" wrote:


LOL, yeah ok. What a crock, I can't believe people actually believe these sort of things.

As for Bishop being overrated, sorry but he is IMO. He's fine playing downhill and attacking the line of scrimmage but he's extremely one dimensional and when he's forced to play out in space he struggles immensely. He'll make a great play, then follow it up with 2 boneheaded plays. He's kind of like an Atari Bigby at LB. Case in point, forced a fumble against the Vikings last year(the 2nd game) to stop Peterson on 4th n 1 and then was burned for a long TD by Chester Taylor the following drive. I'm a Bishop fan but he's not a complete LB, and never will be, nor is he a starting caliber LB in this Defense. He's a great rotation guy to use in short yardage and obvious running situations, which is his role. Playmaking is very overrated, sure it looks great and it makes the highlight real but i'll take the tech-sound, consistent guy any day of the week. It's like when people mention Antonio Cromartie as a top CB nowadays and used to put Lito Sheppard into that same category, it's a joke. Cromartie was statistically the worst CB in the AFC last year, yet people will see him making big plays and consider him one of the best and don't even know who Nnamdi Asomugha.
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Stevetarded
15 years ago
The thing about the Vikings game last year is even though he got juked by Taylor he was still in position to make a play. Which is more than we could say for our other linebackers for most of the season.
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packfan4
15 years ago

The thing about the Vikings game last year is even though he got juked by Taylor he was still in position to make a play. Which is more than we could say for our other linebackers for most of the season.

"Stevetarded" wrote:


So that's a positive? He was in position to make the play but got abused and burnt for a 50 yard TD. Just being in position to make the play doesn't mean anything if you don't do it. Like I said, I like Bishop but if people think replacing Hawk with him is going to make our D better then they are in for a rude, rude awakening if God forbid anything happened to Hawk.


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Stevetarded
15 years ago

The thing about the Vikings game last year is even though he got juked by Taylor he was still in position to make a play. Which is more than we could say for our other linebackers for most of the season.

"packfan4" wrote:


So that's a positive? He was in position to make the play but got abused and burnt for a 50 yard TD. Just being in position to make the play doesn't mean anything if you don't do it. Like I said, I like Bishop but if people think replacing Hawk with him is going to make our D better then they are in for a rude, rude awakening if God forbid anything happened to Hawk.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Yes it's a positive when he makes the play more often than not (he does). He got juked that is something that can be fixed with more experience. We have enough players out there "playing it safe" and "not screwing up". It hasn't seemed to work out too well has it?
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packfan4
15 years ago

The thing about the Vikings game last year is even though he got juked by Taylor he was still in position to make a play. Which is more than we could say for our other linebackers for most of the season.

"Stevetarded" wrote:


So that's a positive? He was in position to make the play but got abused and burnt for a 50 yard TD. Just being in position to make the play doesn't mean anything if you don't do it. Like I said, I like Bishop but if people think replacing Hawk with him is going to make our D better then they are in for a rude, rude awakening if God forbid anything happened to Hawk.

"packfan4" wrote:



Yes it's a positive when he makes the play more often than not (he does). He got juked that is something that can be fixed with more experience. We have enough players out there "playing it safe" and "not screwing up". It hasn't seemed to work out too well has it?

"Stevetarded" wrote:


Makes the play more often than not? When? He doesn't play. We don't "have enough players out there "playing it safe" and "not screwing up", if we did, we would be much better than 18th in Total Defense.
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