Grabacr
15 years ago
i think Rodgers is the best for getting the job done with so much chaff around him. To still get up and make some throws after being hit so many times. (and not get injured: FINGERS CROSSED) has just shown to me he has the fire.

Farve has the best team in the league. I think thats a given. But he said it himself he might not make it throughout the year. But the way they are playing he might just sit out the end 1/4 of the season if pack and da bears dont keep up.

But its an interesting discussion. Especially the Orton/Cutler scenario aswell, makes me think....is he that bad? I think both teams are doing well....even if i cant believe that Denver are 5-0.

I look forward to seeing how atleast the next couple games pan out. See if the vikings start slowing down Farves tosses, Rodgers stays injury free and if Cutler has to resind more or less to Forte. Im watching with open eyes
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago

Saying the Vikings QB is doing the best is a bunch of bullshit, in my opinion. He has the best RB in the league, one of the best defenses, the best pass rushing DE wreaking havoc and a good special teams unit.

Vikings QB is on the best team in the NFC North and playing with in a system predicated on short passes and beasty runs with a powerful defense.

Vikings QB is best? I say fuck you and open your eyes!

/me please note, I hate the Vikings, not you. ;)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




I know he's surrounded by the best talent - but it's not like he's not playing well. I hate the Vikes as much as most (maybe not you - that's some serious hate), but that doesn't mean Favre isn't playing at a very high level. For now.

If we're going to add in stuff like potential and whatnot, then I might amend my statement. But as for who's playing the best right now, it's Favre. Believe me, I'd love to have a different answer.
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IronMan
15 years ago
Right now, Favre is the best QB in the division.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Vikings QB is not the best QB in the division. That's absurd to even consider that. Cutler is doing more with the talent around him that Vikings QB is.

Funny thread. What's next, Troy Aikman was the best QB ever? Where's my Kit Kat?
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Saying the Vikings QB is doing the best is a bunch of bullshit, in my opinion. He has the best RB in the league, one of the best defenses, the best pass rushing DE wreaking havoc and a good special teams unit.

Vikings QB is on the best team in the NFC North and playing with in a system predicated on short passes and beasty runs with a powerful defense.

Vikings QB is best? I say fuck you and open your eyes!

/me please note, I hate the Vikings, not you. ;)

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:




I know he's surrounded by the best talent - but it's not like he's not playing well. I hate the Vikes as much as most (maybe not you - that's some serious hate), but that doesn't mean Favre isn't playing at a very high level. For now.

If we're going to add in stuff like potential and whatnot, then I might amend my statement. But as for who's playing the best right now, it's Favre. Believe me, I'd love to have a different answer.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Vikings QB is playing at a high level, wouldn't be with that talent around him? You give any QB a lot of time that has even half the experience he does, you'll see similar results.

I've watched all four QB's and I simply disagree. Not saying I'm right, or anyone is wrong. I just disagree. Rodgers is playing very well considering a large portion of his time is on the ground. Vikings QB is making the plays that are expected out of a QB and some dandy ones too (SF throw), Cutler is looking like a difrerent QB than I seen in game one, which is scary.

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TE
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noticing the trend? So, as Vikings QB deserves credit, he does not deserve to be heralded as the best QB in the division when football is thrown into the mix instead of just pure numbers.



Edit, you know what, I just realized what I'm doing here. Forget it, Vikings QB is the best in the league right now. There, Favre smoochers can back off and now can we focus on the Packers and their upcoming game? 🙂 On a serious note, I think he is doing very well.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

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Really?

They might get the TE one on depth, but receiver? No way. Harvin might be 'dynamic', but he really hasn't been as impressive as Vikings fans appear to make you want to believe. Berrian can run fast. And he can run fast. Sidney Rice is decent, but not progressing as they're hoping (I asume). Greg Lewis is a decent 3rd/4th receiver. I'd compate him to Martin. Although he was impressive for a year or two in Philly and lastly, Reynaud and Johnson are nothing more than special teamers. Our Blackmon and Swain, really.

I don't think you can give them the nod on that one.

That said, this is the same reason why you can't compare Cutler and Orton. With Cutler being Rodgers and Orton Favre. Not a totally fair comparison, but still.
dhazer
15 years ago
Driver, Jennings and Nelson = 632 yds 4 tds

Harvin, Rice and Berrian = 682 yds 5 tds


pretty close there granted the vikes played one more game but also threw 22 more times. So all in all i say its pretty even.



edit: damn Favre has 30 more completions than Rodgers has.


back on topic Lord Favre is the best qb in the division if you go by stats and qb ranking

Favre #4 104.1 rating

Rodgers #8 101.1 rating

Culter # 14 89.3


of course we won't put the lions on here because they play 2 qbs 😛
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
Well, that solidifies my point even more if you ask me, Dhazer.

They have a better O-line and the best running game in the league, yet, their receivers are producing the same numbers as ours.

I mean, do you really want to tell me that they have better receivers? I think that both our nr. 1 and nr. 2 guy beat their nr. 1 guy hands down. Harvin has an impressive skill set, but hasn't shown me that he's a complete receiver. He doesn't have to, since he's a rookie, but I really don't think that they're coming close to our receiving core at this point.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Wait, Vikings QB has better stats? NO FUCKING SHIT SHERLOCK!


wow ... Better Team = Better Stats


This is insane. I'm going back to my comment since some people want to be dense.

FUCK THE VIKINGS QB!!!

heh
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UffDaVikes
15 years ago
Right now I would have to say that Brett is the best in the division. He has taken the Brad Childress Kick ass offense (KAO) and really made it kick ass. There is no comparison between the passing game with him now and any other QB of the Chilly era.

But he is only a band-aid. All of the other teams in the division have long term solutions at QB who can take their teams as far as the talent around them allows. Give Rodgers or Cutler a championship caliber roster and they will deliver. Stafford is a ? yet as it is too early to tell. The Vikings, OTOH have Jackson behind Brett and he is not a QB who you can build a team around so once Brett is gone they are back at square 1.
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