mi_keys
16 years ago

NFL | Several special teams rules passed
Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:26:15 -0700

Barry Wilner, of The Associated Press, reports the NFL owners have passed a rule stating blocking wedges on kickoffs will not be allowed to have more than two players forming the wedge. Also, a rule stating the kicking team is not allowed to have more than five players bunched together pursuing an onside kick was passed.

"dhazer" wrote:



How can it be a wedge if there are only two players. These two special teams ones are the most ridiculous of the lot.
Born and bred a cheesehead
TheEngineer
16 years ago
If you're not allowed to hit a QB at or below the knees while standing up, why shall a defender be allowed to lunge at or below his knees while on the ground? Sounds more like a loophole that was patched up than a further reduction in liberty. There is nothing preposterous about this new rule.

What does this mean though? More chop blocks and dangerous plays by offensive line on the defensive line, now that they know taking a player to the ground effectively rids them of making any play without drawing a penalty.
blank
Rockmolder
16 years ago

If you're not allowed to hit a QB at or below the knees while standing up, why shall a defender be allowed to lunge at or below his knees while on the ground? Sounds more like a loophole that was patched up than a further reduction in liberty. There is nothing preposterous about this new rule.

What does this mean though? More chop blocks and dangerous plays by offensive line on the defensive line, now that they know taking a player to the ground effectively rids them of making any play without drawing a penalty.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



I see a slight difference between throwing yourself at the QBs knees and making a last hop when you're down on the ground. They both go towards the same region, but the second one didn't need to be banned for me.

I'd post more, but I have to get to my class. I'll come back on this later. 😛
TheKanataThrilla
16 years ago
I agree with the head shot rules. The wide receivers make this game exciting and we don't need shots like the hit on Boldin taking out our league's stars.

That Brady rule is absolutley stupid. My guess is Tarvaris Jackson doesn't get that rule made for him. I though the golden rule of football was not to quit until the whistle blows? I guess not. Makes no sense to me and I do see the O-line intentionally trying ways to knock the D-line to the ground. It will create more problems than it solves, but as long as precious Tom is protected.
Pack93z
16 years ago
Somehow in my mind, I will figure out a way to pin this crap on Bellicheat.. pile of dung in a cutoff sweatshirt.

Wonder how Palmer feels about this.. same injury in the playoffs but no urgent need to change the rules. Along comes the "golden" boy and Kraft and the rules get modified.. lol.

BTW.. Cassell proved that it is more about the system than it is about Brady in NE.. The Chiefs will not see the same results out of Cassell..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
IronMan
16 years ago



Of course.......we didn't have that problem last season, as our D-line was already playing by the "can't touch the QB" rule. So that should put us ahead of all the other teams.

"Cheesey" wrote:


Sad but true.

+1
Rockmolder
16 years ago

Somehow in my mind, I will figure out a way to pin this crap on Bellicheat.. pile of dung in a cutoff sweatshirt.

Wonder how Palmer feels about this.. same injury in the playoffs but no urgent need to change the rules. Along comes the "golden" boy and Kraft and the rules get modified.. lol.

BTW.. Cassell proved that it is more about the system than it is about Brady in NE.. The Chiefs will not see the same results out of Cassell..

"pack93z" wrote:



I agree with all of that. I think the Chiefs should've sticked with a promising young guy named Thigpen, but whatever.

That is one of the big problems I have aswell. What if a big strong guy like Jared Allen will lunge into Tom Brady's stumach area and he will tear his spleen, will they address that aswell? I mean, they're doing everything to keep QBs healthy. This rule doesn't botter me that much, because, like the Engineer said, it was kind of in place already, but where will stuff like this leave us in 5 years?
wils0646
16 years ago
Some clarification on the new low QB hit rule:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/25/pereira-discusses-quarterback-strike-zone/ 

So, moving forward, if a defensive player is on the ground and if he lunges or rolls at the quarterbacks legs in a manner that involves a forcible hit with the helmet or shoulder, a penatly will be called and a fine undoubtedly will be imposed.

That said, defensive players are still permitted to hit a quarterback low if the defender is coming off a block, just as Kimo von Oelhoffen did more than three years ago, when he blew up Carson Palmers plant knee early in a playoff game.

The defensive player also can use his arms or hands to grab a quarterbacks legs and attempt to pull him down, whether the player is on the ground or not.

But, as Pereira explained it, theres now a strike zone on quarterbacks that extends from below the neck to above the knee.

The Pack Will Be Back.
Pack93z
16 years ago
So lets get the actual rule straight.. if you are being blocked and on the way to the ground you can still hit the QB low, but if you hit the ground then you can lunges at him he gets a penalty.

A player on his way down will hit the QB with a hell of a lot more force than a player rolling to lunging into the QB.. they can defend this amendment all they want.. it is the "Tom Brady Rule".. period.

I can see it now this season.. the refs will have to determine if a player hit the ground first or the QB first.. another ambiguous call in the waiting..

Why not just put a flag on the freaking QB already and make it touch for the pansy asses.

This is a contact sport in which some hits have a degree of violent nature, as a player you know that going in and that is part of the compensation you receive for such a risk...

I am all for protecting the well being of the players, but sometimes it is over the line.. the totality of the rules surrounding the QB is over such a line before such a amendment, just keeps getting worse.

Some of this is more in terms of protecting revenue than the players.. they just don't have the guts to admit it.

The offensive points driven bias continues....
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Similar Topics
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (1h) : Benton unsigned no more
    Zero2Cool (23h) : That's good analysis, yes you are getting old. It'd a blessing!
    dfosterf (14-Jul) : *analysis* gettin' old
    dfosterf (14-Jul) : One of the best analyisis I"ve ever watched at this time of an offseason
    dfosterf (14-Jul) : Andy Herman interviewed Warren Sharp on his Pack a day podcast
    packerfanoutwest (10-Jul) : Us Padres fans love it....But it'll be a Dodgers/Yankees World Series
    Zero2Cool (9-Jul) : Brewers sweep Dodgers. Awesome
    Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : And James Flanigan is the grandson of Packers Super Bowl winner Jim Flanigan Sr.
    Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : Jerome Bettis and Jim Flanigans sons as well!
    Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Thomas Davis Jr is OLB, not WR. Oops.
    Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Larry Fitzgeral and Thomas Davis sons too. WR's as well.
    Mucky Tundra (5-Jul) : Kaydon Finley, son of Jermichael Finley, commits to Notre Dame
    dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
    Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
    dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
    Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
    Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
    Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
    dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
    dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
    wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
    Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
    Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
    Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
    Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
    Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
    beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
    Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
    Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    7m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    15-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    14-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    10-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    10-Jul / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

    6-Jul / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    4-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

    1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

    23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.