Zero2Cool
15 years ago
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Last week Bears quarterback Jay Cutler said Brett Favre of the Vikings is the best quarterback in the NFC North.

Today on CBS-TV's "The NFL Today" show studio, analysts Boomer Esiason and Bill Cowher argued their choices for the best quarterback in the division.

Esiason picked Aaron Rodgers. Cowher picked Cutler.

"Brett Favre is going to have the best career out of all of them. We all know that," Esiason said. "I am Aaron Rodgers' biggest fan. But I saw something on Monday night that is definitely a flaw in his game. And that's that he takes too many sacks. There were eight sacks given up by the Green Bay Packers. Six of them I attributed to Aaron Rodgers. I think he is the best quarterback in the NFC North. He certainly has all the intangibles to be a great quarterback. But he has to work on getting rid of the football. That's what is killing him right now."

Cowher responded: "He's the best quarterback, but you are pointing his flaws. The best quarterback in right now in the NFC North is Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler is playing with a receiving corps in Bennett and Knox who last year had zero catches. Their leading receivers were Forte and the tight end. He has brought them back for two come-from-behind wins. They are a passing football team right now. Jay Cutler has been in this offense for four weeks. He is going to get better. Aaron Rodgers has been in this system for two or three years - five years. Hey, clearly Cutler is the best quarterback in the division."

Esiason: "Excuse me, who won the game head to head in week one?"

Cowher: "Week one. Where are they now?"

In the interactive poll feature CBS has, in which fans vote, 55% picked Favre as the best quarterback in the division, 25% chose Cutler, 17% took Rodgers and 3% took Matthew Stafford of the Lions.


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Orygunfan76
15 years ago
I still think it's between Cutler and Rodgers, they've been putting up nice numbers with less talent around them than Favre has. Just take the Minny/GB game for example, switch both favre and Rodgers with their respected O-lines that evening and I'm willing to bet a Rodgers led Vikings team would've performed better than the Favre led one. Rodgers was sacked 8 times and pressured all night and still put up a 100 more yards than Favre(nearly 400), Lee also dropped a sure td in th endzone which would've given Rodgers 3 tds on the night(same as Favre) and Favre didthrow an int as well that was nullified by yet anoyher BS flag on the Packers(there were no shortage of those that night). If I'm building a team I'm taking Cutler or Rodgers first.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Orton		Cutler
5 - 0		3 - 1
104	Comp	83
165	Att	129
63.0	Comp %	64.3
1,236	Yards	901
7	TD's	8
1	INT's	5
97.4	Rating	89.3
8	Sacks	8

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Formo
15 years ago

Orton		Cutler
5 - 0		3 - 1
104	Comp	83
165	Att	129
63.0	Comp %	64.3
1,236	Yards	901
7	TD's	8
1	INT's	5
97.4	Rating	89.3
8	Sacks	8

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Holy balls! Really?

Wow. That's honestly a shocker to me.
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Gravedigga
15 years ago

I still think it's between Cutler and Rodgers, they've been putting up nice numbers with less talent around them than Favre has. Just take the Minny/GB game for example, switch both favre and Rodgers with their respected O-lines that evening and I'm willing to bet a Rodgers led Vikings team would've performed better than the Favre led one. Rodgers was sacked 8 times and pressured all night and still put up a 100 more yards than Favre(nearly 400), Lee also dropped a sure td in th endzone which would've given Rodgers 3 tds on the night(same as Favre) and Favre didthrow an int as well that was nullified by yet anoyher BS flag on the Packers(there were no shortage of those that night). If I'm building a team I'm taking Cutler or Rodgers first.

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I agree. Put Jamarcus Russell on the Vikings and they would be undefeated too. The packers have almost zero talent on their team. Horrible defense, coaches, management. O-line is garbage, all their receivers are crap. Driver, Jennings, Nelson, Jones, tight ends, they all suck. The only thing holding the Packers together is Rodgers who is doing it all by himself. I think if only Rodgers could throw to himself, maybe they could win more.

Brett Favre is old and crusty. He has the most dominant o-line in nfl history and the great adrian peterson who got almost 2.2 yards per carry and only had one fumble returned for a td last week. The Vikings defense dominated, only allowing 380 passing yards and practically shutting the packer run game out at just under 5 yards per carry. Honestly, i think you could put a blind retarted midget behind center for the Vikings and he would have performed better than Favre did last week. Yea it was statistically his 2nd highest rated game of his career but it was definitely ALL LUCK.

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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Orton		Cutler
5 - 0		3 - 1
104	Comp	83
165	Att	129
63.0	Comp %	64.3
1,236	Yards	901
7	TD's	8
1	INT's	5
97.4	Rating	89.3
8	Sacks	8

"Formo" wrote:



Holy balls! Really?

Wow. That's honestly a shocker to me.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



In Cutlers defense, Orton has played one more game.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Orton		Cutler
5 - 0		3 - 1
104	Comp	83
165	Att	129
63.0	Comp %	64.3
1,236	Yards	901
7	TD's	8
1	INT's	5
97.4	Rating	89.3
8	Sacks	8

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Holy balls! Really?

Wow. That's honestly a shocker to me.

"Formo" wrote:



In Cutlers defense, Orton has played one more game.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



And their situations aren't the same, either. Denver has a better O-line and receivers, while being tied on the running game with Fort's lackluster performance so far.

I'm impressed by Orton, but I'm cutting Cutler some slack on this one.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I've liked Orton ever since the snow game at Soldier Field in which Brett Favre laid and egg and Orton shined.

Dude has some talent, he's just always been surrounded by a lousy supporting cast.
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago
Sheesh. Favre is playing the best out of all of them to this point. Therefore he's the best. Will that pan out for a whole season? Remains to be seen.

And like Nonstop, I've always thought Orton was a good, consistent QB. His skill set is very comparable to Brady's when he was inserted into the Pats' starting lineup. Obviously, he's increased that skill set significantly since, and he's leagues better than Orton at this point. But that younger version of Brady let the Pats to a SuperBowl win.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Saying the Vikings QB is doing the best is a bunch of bullshit, in my opinion. He has the best RB in the league, one of the best defenses, the best pass rushing DE wreaking havoc and a good special teams unit.

Vikings QB is on the best team in the NFC North and playing with in a system predicated on short passes and beasty runs with a powerful defense.

Vikings QB is best? I say fuck you and open your eyes!

/me please note, I hate the Vikings, not you. šŸ˜‰
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