Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Favre calls injury report fine "very unfair," opens Packers to possible scrutiny 
Last week, the league office conveniently disclosed that a total of $125,000 in fines had been imposed on the Jets for failing to disclose the fact that quarterback Brett Favre had a partially torn biceps tendon in the late stages of the 2008 season until Favre's weekly Wednesday press availability had ended.

So he wasn't asked about it last Wednesday, and he wasn't asked about it after Sunday's 27-13 win at Detroit.

But Favre finally was asked about the situation today.

"I think it's very unfair. I just think it's wrong," Favre said. "They did everything that I felt like they were supposed to. I practiced like half a day on the Wednesday after we knew that I had a torn biceps. The only reason I brought that up was I wanted to address to them that I felt like maybe there were some throws, or I could have played better and because of this injury. . . . I just wanted to let them know that. I never asked them to put me on the injury report."

There are a couple of problems with his logic. First, if Favre practiced "like half a day" on the Wednesday after they knew of the injury, he should have been listed on the injury report as being a limited participant in practice for that day. But he wasn't.

Second, it's not up to the player to ask to be put on the injury report. Rarely if ever would a player want to have an injured area of his body highlighted for the opposing defense's benefit.

Sure, some players might appreciate having a known excuse for poor play. But when the player can cite the injury ad nauseum after the fact (as Favre did in this case), there's no need to mention the injury on the injury report. (This year, however, Favre has opted to pre-excuse potential poor play, citing in advance of the season injuries like a partially torn rotator cuff, cracked ribs, and sore ankles.)

In making his case for the unfairness of the fines imposed on the Jets, Favre also might have pulled his other former team, the Packers, into the crosshairs of the league office.

"I can't tell you how many times I probably should have been on the injury report and was not," Favre said.

Oops.

Favre also said that, before the fines were announced, he apologized to Jets G.M. Mike Tannenbaum and former Jets coach Eric Mangini for getting them in trouble.

"I've talked with Mike and just spoke briefly with Eric when we played those guys but [the fine] hadn't come out yet. Just expressed that I was sorry that it led to that. It meant nothing. But I think it was unfair the way they were treated."

In a roundabout way, Favre has a point. When it comes to cheating on the injury report, plenty of teams do it. The problem here is that, in his endless quest to explain away last year's collapse down the stretch by pointing to an injury that otherwise had been hidden, Favre said too much about the fact that he was injury, and that forced the league to take action.



He doesn't learn does he?
dfosterf
15 years ago
Just send the league his 20 million.

I'm just waiting for him to throw his college team under the bus for a recruiting violation.
GoPack1984
15 years ago
I really wish he would stop talking. I'll always be a fan of him even though I've been annoyed at him for quite a while. He should just focus on the Vikings and his present job.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
In defense of Favre, reporters love him because he's easy to get a story out of. So yes, it's partly Favre's fault for not shutting his mouth, but keep in mind these reporters are good. They do it for a living.
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Formo
15 years ago

Favre calls injury report fine "very unfair," opens Packers to possible scrutiny 

In a roundabout way, Favre has a point. When it comes to cheating on the injury report, plenty of teams do it. The problem here is that, in his endless quest to explain away last year's collapse down the stretch by pointing to an injury that otherwise had been hidden, Favre said too much about the fact that he was injury, and that forced the league to take action.



How exactly was the league 'forced' into action? We all knew he was injured last year. Favre told us all that (or, more accurately, Favre told the media, and the media told us).

This reaks of something bigger going on.

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Formo
15 years ago

Favre calls injury report fine "very unfair," opens Packers to possible scrutiny 

In a roundabout way, Favre has a point. When it comes to cheating on the injury report, plenty of teams do it. The problem here is that, in his endless quest to explain away last year's collapse down the stretch by pointing to an injury that otherwise had been hidden, Favre said too much about the fact that he was injury, and that forced the league to take action.

"Formo" wrote:



How exactly was the league 'forced' into action? We all knew he was injured last year. Favre told us all that (or, more accurately, Favre told the media, and the media told us).

This reaks of something bigger going on.



Oh, and I disagree with Favre, that it's not fair. Well, it is, but it isn't.

It's fair because the Jets were the one's who jacked up. It isn't because the league ONLY is fining the Jets, when they should probably pull their head out of their rears and actually pay attention to what teams are doing with their injury reports. Or just change that system.

Either way, people can call out Favre all they want. What they should be doing is thanking him for exposing the failure that is the NFL's officials abilities to keep their teams in check.

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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

In defense of Favre, reporters love him because he's easy to get a story out of. So yes, it's partly Favre's fault for not shutting his mouth, but keep in mind these reporters are good. They do it for a living.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Yep, I've said this quite a few times myself. Yes, Favre needs to shut it, but in the same breathe I feel the reporters need to get more intelligent and stop using Brett as their easy out story and do some digging up on their own.

Brett's the easy story.

I feel reporters should be working much harder and compiling stats, resources, etc and writing about that and reporting that instead of just running to Brett for a sound bite.
Wade
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15 years ago
Actually, even though the media sometimes takes advantage, I think I'll always like Favre's talkativeness. Partly because I have a bit of a rambling problem myself (ahem). But mostly because it's so refreshing in an age where practice squad players practice PR101 and coaches practice corporate non-speak as a matter of course.

Perhaps we'd all learn a bit more tolerance (and a bit more skill at hitting the "scroll" and "delete" and "mute" keys) if more "public figures" were talkative like Favre and fewer used the Ari Fleischer Handbook as their Bible.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
Wade - After wading through MM's utter nonsense, I think you're right. Favre is refreshing that he's not so freaking scripted.

MM has ways of saying 100 words without communicating anything.
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15 years ago
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