TwinkieGorilla
15 years ago

I know that for most people it's, or Rodgers, or Favre right now

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*head explodes*

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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15 years ago
The best thing Rodgers got from being behind Favre was a chance to take snaps with the 1st team a lot since Favre didn't want to.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

I think I've read that Favre mellowed quite a bit after his initial anger at the Rodgers selection. I seem to remember Favre and Rodgers having that 'competition' throwing the football into nets in the corner of the endzone.

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I think this is something that is misconceived by many.

Brett was not angry by the selection of Rodgers. Would he rather have had a OL or Defensive help with that pick? Yes, but Brett is not stupid, he understands rookies take time to develop.

He feared Rodgers (and any other backup QB on the roster). Brett has repeatedly stated that he's one play away from losing his job. That play, being an injury. He saw how fast Majik lost his starting job. That's another reason Brett refused to come out of games during injury. Fear of being REPLACED. He's even said this in recent years, as well as his book.

He understood how things worked, football is a business. It was the fear of KNOWING what COULD happen that drove him to legendary status. He never got complacent in his position with the team regardless of how great he was doing.

Fear is a helluva driving factor in us all. If we knew we wouldn't crash or get ticketed for going 90mph on the highway, would we? Yes, because we do not fear any consequence. Do we? Most do not, because of the fear of crashing or getting ticketed.

Rodgers is more secure than he was. Maybe arrogant is more accurate?

Fact is, (ok in my opinion) Brett felt a minute helping his backup was a minute lost making himself better. I think it should be known that Brett did not turn down questions from QB's. But he wasn't going to go hunt QB's down to help them out.
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15 years ago


Rodgers is more secure than he was. Maybe arrogant is more accurate?

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let's be wary of mistaking confidence for arrogance.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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ironically, it was also his coach that caused him to get passed over by San Francisco in the draft.

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I was waiting for someone to mention this, i am glad it didn't take very long.
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It must be galling for the 49ers GM who picked Smith over Rodgers. The way things have shaken out it looks like a totally busted pick and when compared to the success of Aaron one wonders how he could have made such a blunder.

But arguably had Rodgers been thrown into the fire in San Fran and Smith rode the pine in Green Bay we could have ended up with a similar result albeit with different individuals. After all, Rodgers stunk pretty bad his 1st (and 2nd) pre seasons which suggests had he had to start in San Fran he could have blown up horribly.

It's often a thankless task being a GM.
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It must be galling for the 49ers GM who picked Smith over Rodgers. The way things have shaken out it looks like a totally busted pick and when compared to the success of Aaron one wonders how he could have made such a blunder.

But arguably had Rodgers been thrown into the fire in San Fran and Smith rode the pine in Green Bay we could have ended up with a similar result albeit with different individuals. After all, Rodgers stunk pretty bad his 1st (and 2nd) pre seasons which suggests had he had to start in San Fran he could have blown up horribly.

It's often a thankless task being a GM.

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I think i found someone that has me on ignore lol 😛
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ILikeThePackers39
15 years ago
Oh, for crap sake.

Yes, he learned from Favre. Of course he did. Yes, he benefitted from having 3 years to sit and learn while he adjusted to the speed of the pro game.

Yes, all of that is true.

But now he's a good QB and he plays for the Packers. We're thus far enjoying something very few teams' fans ever get - a lack of drop-off after losing a franchise QB.

So maybe we should just, you know, enjoy that instead of conjuring new ways to insult him (Hazer, of course) or contorting ourselves to give the previous QB (who plays for Minnesota now, in case anyone missed that) the credit? It's a thought.
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15 years ago

Oh, for crap sake.

Yes, he learned from Favre. Of course he did. Yes, he benefitted from having 3 years to sit and learn while he adjusted to the speed of the pro game.

Yes, all of that is true.

But now he's a good QB and he plays for the Packers. We're thus far enjoying something very few teams' fans ever get - a lack of drop-off after losing a franchise QB.

So maybe we should just, you know, enjoy that instead of conjuring new ways to insult him (Hazer, of course) or contorting ourselves to give the previous QB (who plays for Minnesota now, in case anyone missed that) the credit? It's a thought.

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This is the most important line in the entire thread. Most teams lose their Franchise QB and their window immediately closes for years. Our window never closed and it looks to be open for many years to come. Oh how our fellow North teams must envy our luck. All 3 teams hadn't had a reliable QB in years. Albeit things have changed over the summer, bears with the upgrade of cutler, and the vikes riding the last fibers in favre's arm, they are not as bad off as they are used to. a year from now the vikings will be back in the same problem though. poor lions hahaaaaa
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15 years ago

ironically, it was also his coach that caused him to get passed over by San Francisco in the draft.

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I hear this a lot, and I'm not convinced it's true. Over at 49ers.com, they seem to think that in fact Mike McCarthy wanted Rodgers all along, but that he was overruled. That his public declarations of wanting Smith were him just McCarthy toeing the party line. It is odd, if he didn't want Rodgers, that he later accepted a head coaching job on a team where Rodgers was clearly the heir apparent.

It's often a thankless task being a GM.

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Granted. But it's not as though there were not warning signs for any GM to take into consideration. Smith played a spread offense in college, and historically, quarterbacks from spread systems have not done well on the NFL level. By contrast, Rodgers excelled in a West Coast Offense on the collegiate level, so he was well prepared for his transition to the professional game.
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For your viewing pleasure:

http://forums.49ers.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=77529 

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Thanks for the awesome link, Engineer. Here is a dictionary definition that might come in handy:

schadenfreude (shd'n-froi'd) n.
Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.
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TheEngineer
15 years ago

For your viewing pleasure:

http://forums.49ers.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=77529 

"Greg C." wrote:



Thanks for the awesome link, Engineer. Here is a dictionary definition that might come in handy:

schadenfreude (shd'n-froi'd) n.
Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.

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Apologies if I seem a tad slow (as a good proportion of my brain is trying to fight off possible swine flu at the moment) but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In my justification I posted it for the sake of... umm... what's that word... synonym for completeness.... ah everything escapes me at the moment.
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Oh, for crap sake.

Yes, he learned from Favre. Of course he did. Yes, he benefitted from having 3 years to sit and learn while he adjusted to the speed of the pro game.

Yes, all of that is true.


So maybe we should just, you know, enjoy that instead of conjuring new ways to insult him (Hazer, of course) or contorting ourselves to give the previous QB (who plays for Minnesota now, in case anyone missed that) the credit? It's a thought.

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"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



Can you please explain how i have been ripping on Rodgers please? If you were in chat you would have seen me constantly chating Go Rodgers go, just because i state that if thing were switched it could be totally different?


As for as Non's comments about qbs from a spread offense not doing well in the NFL, all i have to say is that Cal qbs have known to flop in the NFL so i guess you could say it was a toss up then?
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

If you were in chat you would have seen me constantly chating Go Rodgers go, just because i state that if thing were switched it could be totally different?

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That's right. He is always saying GO Rodgers GO, because he wants him to get off the train and go somewhere else. 🙂
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If you were in chat you would have seen me constantly chating Go Rodgers go, just because i state that if thing were switched it could be totally different?

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That's right. He is always saying GO Rodgers GO, because he wants him to get off the train and go somewhere else. :)

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Lmao hey now, see your reading that wrong and taking my words and changing there meaning:P The reason was because you made me an op so i had to be nice 😛
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For your viewing pleasure:

http://forums.49ers.com/messageboard/showthread.php?t=77529 

"TheEngineer" wrote:



Thanks for the awesome link, Engineer. Here is a dictionary definition that might come in handy:

schadenfreude (shd'n-froi'd) n.
Pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others.

"Greg C." wrote:



Apologies if I seem a tad slow (as a good proportion of my brain is trying to fight off possible swine flu at the moment) but I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. In my justification I posted it for the sake of... umm... what's that word... synonym for completeness.... ah everything escapes me at the moment.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



Oh, sorry. That word popped into my mind because I really felt good about Rodgers knowing that a lot of SF fans are disappointed that they picked the other guy. I wasn't trying to be sarcastic.
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ironically, it was also his coach that caused him to get passed over by San Francisco in the draft.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I hear this a lot, and I'm not convinced it's true. Over at 49ers.com, they seem to think that in fact Mike McCarthy wanted Rodgers all along, but that he was overruled. That his public declarations of wanting Smith were him just McCarthy toeing the party line. It is odd, if he didn't want Rodgers, that he later accepted a head coaching job on a team where Rodgers was clearly the heir apparent.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



I suspect being the OC of the worst ranked offense in the league made him a bit less picky about which head coaching jobs he turned down.

He also may have expected another 3+ years of Favre as his QB. That must have been quite a draw for a rookie head coach.
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