British
15 years ago
Quite a range of opinions in this thread. Some people are going to be pretty surprised and disappointed come cut down day (most of probably will be, we seem to have quite a lot of depth).

First, great point about B-Jax being an option for short yardage. He seems as strong as an ox and always is able to scrap his way to an extra yard before going down. I really hope he gets more carries this year. Whenever he gets a chance he takes it, but they are just so few and far between.

Sutton seems to offer us something different to what we have and the way the coaches are playing him in pre season its almost as if we already know he wont make it past waivers.

Before the Browns game I was sure Wynn would be the third back but now who knows. I hope we take 4 RBs, Grant, Jackson, Wynn, Sutton and try and stash Lumpkin on the PS (Wynn no longer qualifies).

The face we're likely to only take 2 specialist TEs means we may have an extra roster spot on offense.
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beast
15 years ago
For those that are keeping Wynn over Sutton just because Wynn can be a power rusher... well Sutton can be a power rusher too as he gets under the linemen and keeps rushing.

Don't want Grant, Jackson or Sutton as the power rusher? Well then put FB Johnson or Kuhn back there to power rush.

My point is that they can get around the power rusher thing even with out Lumpkin or Wynn.
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RainX
15 years ago
To me they keep Grant, Jackson, Sutton, Hall, and Johnson if you had to pick the 5 RBs/FBs they'll keep on the 53-man roster today.

I think Wynn has definitely shown flashes, but my biggest concern with him has always been his durability. He hasn't been healthy in either of his first two seasons in Green Bay. I do like the fact he has improved his work ethic during this past offseason, but looking at back for back, out of Lumpkin, Sutton, and Wynn, Sutton has by far been the most productive.

I will concede at this stage, Wynn is probably the better pass protector then Sutton, but Sutton offers more versatility being a KR as well as pounding the rock. He seems to have good vision and has done a good job hitting the holes the offensive line and QJ have opened for him.

Obviously there are still a couple of preseason games left to play, but I've always thought the back who could stay the healthiest behind Jackson and Grant would probably be the back they keep on the roster. I suppose you could always carry 4 RBs on the roster, but there isn't a whole lot of wiggle room and you'd probably be cutting someone on defense you'd really like to stash on the 53-man.
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Scottish_Packer
15 years ago
I don't think it will be long before Sutton's making an even bigger push, apparently at last nights practice he was showing good blitz pickup skills with a block on Poppinga.
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TheEngineer
15 years ago
Sutton won't make the Practice Squad. Articles on him from a few weeks ago stated that Sutton was approached by several teams but he chose the Packers due to Thompson saying he'd sign Sutton for tryouts if he wasn't drafted. Now that we've seen what Tyrell has to offer, I'm sure many other teams will be itching to get a chance to sign him. Someone will pick him up on waivers.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
Sutton is no where near the talent level, but there was another running back that was the same height and a little lighter.

Barry David Sanders

Position: RB
Height: 5-8 Weight: 203 lbs.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Rockmolder
15 years ago

Sutton is no where near the talent level, but there was another running back that was the same height and a little lighter.

Barry David Sanders

Position: RB
Height: 5-8 Weight: 203 lbs.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Darren Sproles

Height: 5-6 Weight: 181 lbs.

Neither are to be compared to Barry Sanders (like you said), but still.

The biggest difference is the top end speed, though. Sutton is quick, just like Sproles and Sanders, but he isn't that fast. Where Barry would just run right past the secondary and ran somewhere between a 4.2 and 4.4 and Sproles does the same thing, while running a 4.5 40, Sutton runs a 4.75.

I know, it's not all about speed, but with the type of back that he is, you would like to see something better than 4.75 speed. He has great accaleration and balance, allowing him to dance around, but he won't outrun the secondary a whole lot. He has bruiser speed, which doesn't fit his style. He's no MJD.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I hate going off topic, but Barry Sanders, yet another weak spot of mine. He was clocked at 4.37 in the 40-yard dash.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

I hate going off topic, but Barry Sanders, yet another weak spot of mine. He was clocked at 4.37 in the 40-yard dash.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I looked that up before making that post. I found that as well. I did find another little nugget, though. There might be some bias in that coach's time, but still, I wouldn't be surprised if that was true.

Quoted from an SI article:

"When the Lion contingent paid a visit to Oklahoma State, Sanders ran a 4.39 for them (he had been clocked at 4.273 by his coaches)"

Cheesey
15 years ago

If they keep 6 he makes the team. Barring injury, Grant and Jackson will account for 90% of the running plays, therefore they will only keep 5 (3 RB and 2 FB).

Ted is a gambler and he will try and tuck Sutton away on the PS. The move could come back and bite him but as Sutton was undrafted and there will be a lot of higher profile RBs out there he (Ted) will take the chance.

Keep in mind that while Sutton has 140 yards and a 5.2 avg, he has been playing against 2nd and 3rd string players and Cleveland's 1st string is not all that good to being with.

"wpr" wrote:


Thats a good point, and the same thing i was thinking. He hasn't gone up against the best D's yet.
He does look like he could be good though. It's a nice problem to have.....difficult when you have alot of good talent to choose from.
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