yooperfan
16 years ago

I'm shocked at the Raji Hate. Glorified DE? Twinky? I hope he eats lots of twinkies so he's huge and plugs that NT spot up. I want RBs to run seven feet to the left and still be in front of Raji's fat ass.

But he'll show up. This is just (unfortunate) business.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:




C'mon - you're not really shocked. I mean, it's a pro athlete and things aren't working out perfectly - of course there's going to be hate, that's how it works. Fans hate athletes, except for during those fleeting moments they do something impressive on the field - the rest of the time it's all hate and envy.

"tromadz" wrote:



I certainly have no hate for Raji, he is just a young kid being led around by the nose by a greedy agent.
I do envy anyone that can command that kind of money for playing a game that in the whole scope of things means no more than a Little League game.
The slotting thing is nothing more than an egotistical bunch of bullshit played by greedy agents.

Oh Vince Lombardi, where art thou now!!!!
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
16 years ago

Raji if you are reading this - Hi!

"bozz_2006" wrote:



+1

Oh and Raji, what the heck are you doing wasting your time like that?
Don't you have better places to lerk? :magnifyglass:
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
16 years ago

I'm shocked at the Raji Hate. Glorified DE? Twinky? I hope he eats lots of twinkies so he's huge and plugs that NT spot up. I want RBs to run seven feet to the left and still be in front of Raji's fat ass.

But he'll show up. This is just (unfortunate) business.

"tromadz" wrote:



+1
The Trom speaks. As it is written, so shall it be done.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
16 years ago

Short point (an aphorism from my law school days, used to explain why even someone trained as a lawyer should hire a(nother) lawyer to represent him/her in adversary proceedings): Represent yourself, and be assured that you will have a fool for a client.

Longer point: If I had a son with the skill sets of a NFL first round draft choice, I'd tell him to get a pit bull of an agent. Someone not afraid to be obnoxiously aggressive on his behalf and take all sorts of crap from fans like me for it. Someone who could care less about the "team" who drafted him.

As a fan I hate holdouts. And I'm happy to call agents "scum" when the holdout might affect "my" team. But if I were in Raji's shoes, I'd be looking to hire the biggest prick possible as my agent if I were convinced that that prick was going to be the most zealous on my behalf.

And if the market for someone drafted in my position starts at twelve gazillion dollars, a zealous agent is not doing his job unless his negotiating starts somewhere well above 12 gazillion dollars; and unless he gets his client *at least* 12 gazillion dollars.

And let us not forget, the NFL is *not* a free market. Raji has exactly three options. He plays for the Packers. He goes back into next years draft. Or he does something other than play NFL football. He doesn't get to play for another football team this year. Period. That single fact gives the Packers huge bargaining power.

Enough all by itself to justify hiring a pit bull of an agent.

Add in the fact that Raji even if he majored in "sports agent management" or some such, has nowhere near his agent's skill set.

I majored in econ and management in college. I have advanced degrees in both law and econ. I've *taught* business majors for close to 20 years. I've practiced law. And I wouldn't dream of representing myself had I skills that could draw a multi-million dollar employment contract.

I might have a bit more skill at choosing a representative than Raji. I hope I would, anyway. But I'd use that skill to figure out who was the most zealous of representatives. Not to figure out who was best at making nicey-nicey.

The time to become a "team player" is *after* you sign your first NFL contract. Not before.

The job of an agent is not to get what his client "should be willing to take." The job of an agent is to get as much on his client's behalf as his client's employer is willing to give. Nothing else.

"Wade" wrote:



I agree with ALMOST everything you say Wade. I would want my son to have the same nasty SOB you want.
The place, as a fan, I draw the line is over the question of, "How close are they?" I don't want them haggling over the last dollar, or even the last million in a $30+ million dollar deal.
If GB is offering $30 million with $16 guaranteed and they want $32 with $17 guaranteed, and they hold out 4 months over it, it is not worth it. It is not worth it to hold out 3 weeks. Training camp goes by fast and missing out can mean the difference between starting or filling in situationally. If he sits out too long he may not get into the flow of the defense.
UserPostedImage
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
16 years ago



I agree with ALMOST everything you say Wade. I would want my son to have the same nasty SOB you want.
The place, as a fan, I draw the line is over the question of, "How close are they?" I don't want them haggling over the last dollar, or even the last million in a $30+ million dollar deal.
If GB is offering $30 million with $16 guaranteed and they want $32 with $17 guaranteed, and they hold out 4 months over it, it is not worth it. It is not worth it to hold out 3 weeks. Training camp goes by fast and missing out can mean the difference between starting or filling in situationally. If he sits out too long he may not get into the flow of the defense.

"wpr" wrote:



Agreed, wpr.
Though I would add that, in such a situation, I'd be equally teed off at the Packers. At some point "split the difference" just makes sense from both sides. Anything else is just trying to see who gets to say "Nanner nanner nanner. I got the last word!"

Sure would be nice to get in the position where you could say "2 million apart" is close, wouldn't it? I hate rich people sometimes. 🙂
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
16 years ago



Sure would be nice to get in the position where you could say "2 million apart" is close, wouldn't it? I hate rich people sometimes. :)

"Wade" wrote:



I'll bet you and I could easily divide up $2. It would take us 10 min.
The worse case senario would be giving the Gov't $1 and taking $500,000 each. I could live with that.
UserPostedImage
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
16 years ago
hehe...well, I think you should give your million to the government and I'll keep the other. That's more fairer.

(No, I was never elected to high office. But I know the shtick.)

p.s. yep. 10 minutes or less. Of course if it were you and I negotiating I probably would have settled for 15 million a month ago. And you'd be GMing for GB from your over-the-water villa in Bora Bora. 🙂
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
16 years ago


hehe...well, I think you should give your million to the government and I'll keep the other. That's more fairer.

"Wade" wrote:



Hey! Don't go Crabtree on me. :physassult:



(No, I was never elected to high office. But I know the shtick.)

p.s. yep. 10 minutes or less. Of course if it were you and I negotiating I probably would have settled for 15 million a month ago. And you'd be GMing for GB from your over-the-water villa in Bora Bora. :)

"Wade" wrote:



TRUTH!
UserPostedImage
ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

I'm shocked at the Raji Hate. Glorified DE? Twinky? I hope he eats lots of twinkies so he's huge and plugs that NT spot up. I want RBs to run seven feet to the left and still be in front of Raji's fat ass.

But he'll show up. This is just (unfortunate) business.

"yooperfan" wrote:




C'mon - you're not really shocked. I mean, it's a pro athlete and things aren't working out perfectly - of course there's going to be hate, that's how it works. Fans hate athletes, except for during those fleeting moments they do something impressive on the field - the rest of the time it's all hate and envy.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:



I certainly have no hate for Raji, he is just a young kid being led around by the nose by a greedy agent.
I do envy anyone that can command that kind of money for playing a game that in the whole scope of things means no more than a Little League game.
The slotting thing is nothing more than an egotistical bunch of bullshit played by greedy agents.

Oh Vince Lombardi, where art thou now!!!!

"tromadz" wrote:




I envy them a little, but I'm also reminded that had I applied myself more when I was younger, I could be doing the same thing. I didn't - I didn't have the drive, determination or self-sacrifice to do it, so now I have a day job. Sucks, but it's not like I didn't have a choice.

Granted, many of these guys are gifted to a point that I was not, but a lot of it is pure effort and self-sacrifice. While I was off goofing around, they were working to hone their skills and their bodies to prepare themselves to play at that level.

Do I think they're overpaid? No, I think the whole industry's overpaid - since they're the ones out on the field getting their bodies broken, I figure they're entitled to a good chunk of the money.

For the record (and more on topic), though: I'd just as soon Raji tell his agent to stuff it, sign a damn contract and get him into camp, if I had a say in the matter.
blank
bozz_2006
16 years ago
if any athletes ought to get paid such huge sums of money, it's football players. after 6-8 years of this punishment, their bodies are destroyed. I hope Raji makes a whole ton of money... just decide on exactly how much PDQ!!!
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (10m) : That is fair by me.
buckeyepackfan (11m) : Kenny Clark is the player, 2 1st rnd picks
Zero2Cool (17m) : umm... what?
wpr (29m) : I am stunned
Mucky Tundra (32m) : RICKEY SCOOPS WAS RIGHT AGAIN!!!
Mucky Tundra (32m) : ITS HAPPENING
buckeyepackfan (33m) : DEAL IS DONE
buckeyepackfan (35m) : MICAH IS COMING TO GREEN BAY!!!!!!!!!
wpr (7h) : Me do-ed it gooderly,
Zero2Cool (21h) : Bahah, I was like WTF why isn't anyone posting on PP.com ... oops no one has permissions
dfosterf (23h) : tell her I reckon
dfosterf (23h) : Micah Robinson cut. Probable PS player tomorrow. Has to call mom back and t
Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : New site so much better. Might make switch and deal with it.
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Mecole Hardman to our practice squad
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Nick Nieman from Texans our 5th linebacker. Special teams signing
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Looks like we signed Clayton Tune as QB3
wpr (27-Aug) : TKT people lose their minds over QB3. Point is almost none of them are ready that's why they are on the PS and other teams don't take them.
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Unfortunately he doesn't seem ready to be an emergency QB.
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : As a Canadian and a follower of Canadian University football. I am rooting for him
dfosterf (27-Aug) : I bet a lot of us will follow the Taylor Elgersma journey with interest. Personally, got a Kurt Warner vibe goin' on. I like him
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Not sure if either will be claimed though.
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Tune or Hooker would make sense
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Clayton Tune cut by the Cards? Don't know if that's the guy, we shall see
TheKanataThrilla (27-Aug) : Per Bill Huber, the Packers will not be bringing back Taylor Elgersma or Sean Clifford on the practice squad, so a new third quarterback
Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : Schefter must have deleted his tweet
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Hopefully Jerry reaches under the seat cushions and ashtrays of his jet and scrapes up the 45 million apr and spares us further nonsense
dfosterf (27-Aug) : Have to admit the PO'd Cowboy fan videos would be fun to watch. Problem with draft picks is half their fanbase barely knows what that is
beast (27-Aug) : I think Cowboys fans are ready to get their pitch forks and burning sticks if Jerry were to trade Micah
dfosterf (27-Aug) : If Jerry traded Micah to GB, here in northern Va. they would have to quick build yet another data center to handle the internet hate traffic
Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : its signing and trades that you don't hear about, other then announced
Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : If you hear rumors about Packers sign or trade, won't happen. Not how they work
dfosterf (27-Aug) : 19 players in a contract year. Jones called loss to us worst loss in Cowboy history. Forget Parsons trade. Not happenin' Cap'n
packerfanoutwest (27-Aug) : The Packers, meanwhile, are the youngest team in the league for the third consecutive year.
dfosterf (27-Aug) : That it was darkest before the dawn in Bengals and Commanders before they got deals done
Zero2Cool (27-Aug) : what is Schefter saying?
dfosterf (27-Aug) : He was getting Dorito infusion therapy
dfosterf (27-Aug) : He's outta shape. Why, just the other day I saw him splayed out on the trainers table
Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : Parsons has followed Rasheed Walker on Twitter. Quite the choice
Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : Kuhn is a former player who works for the team, if somethings going down, he would be close to it
Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : @kuhnj30 Micah Freaking Parsons
Mucky Tundra (27-Aug) : A LOT of buzz on the Bird App regarding Parsons; even Schefter is saying it's serious
dfosterf (26-Aug) : *Orzech*
dfosterf (26-Aug) : Orzich long snapper 3 yr extension
Zero2Cool (26-Aug) : Packers signed someone for three year deal
Zero2Cool (26-Aug) : lol i know it's insane ... sign up for the waiver wire then you'll know
wpr (26-Aug) : YES!!!!!!
Mucky Tundra (26-Aug) : WE WANT THE LIST! WE WANT THE LIST!
Zero2Cool (26-Aug) : @JJLahey · 2m Holy crap, Packers, where the heck is the list?
Zero2Cool (26-Aug) : haha folks on Tweeter every year this time ... 'where is list Packers!!" hahaha
wpr (26-Aug) : He played pretty good.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
1m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

7h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

21h / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

21h / Fantasy Sports Talk / Zero2Cool

22h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

27-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

27-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Cheesey

26-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

26-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

25-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

24-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

24-Aug / Around The NFL / beast

23-Aug / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

22-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.