porky88
15 years ago
What is San Diego doing that high?

Gates is great and Jackson is an up and comer, but Chris Chambers is vastly overrated. He always has been. The depth isn't there either.

Philly is overrated too. Jeremy Maclin hasn't stepped foot on the field yet and he's rated highly by some. I think he has bust written all over him to be honest so I think they overrate Philly.

I would go

1. Arizona
2. New England
3. Green Bay
4. New Orleans
5. Indianapolis

I know the Colts don't have depth, but Wayne, Clark, and Gonzalez is as good as a one-two-three as you could ask for.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I like Chris Chambers, but he's only a solid 2, and maybe a handful of teams he'd be there 1.
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doddpower
15 years ago
I agree with Porky. The Chargers and Philly are highly over rated. So are the Saints. Drew Breese makes every receiver on that team better. Not to say they are not talented, but this is a case of an elite quarterback more so then elite receivers. If Breese had the Packer's receivers it would be incredibly scary.

And Denver? I could MAYBE see the argument for the 9th or 10th spot on the list with Cutler, but I think Cutler made his receivers appear a little better then they are as well.

At least with the Packers Driver and Jennings have shown they can do it with more then one quarterback. I would like to see how this list looks excluding tight ends.
warhawk
15 years ago
I haven't seen the Pack rated very high in any catagory yet they finished 5th in offense so what's the deal?

If you couple all this with the thoughts here by many that we have serious OL issues I don't see how we stayed out of the bottom 10.

Either the team chemistry is extroidinary, the coaching is brilliant, or, all these catagory ratings don't mean squat.

I don't guess I have to say which way I'm leaning.
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