wils0646
16 years ago

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/48814277.html

Looks like both sides are getting closer to getting an extension done.

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Awesome news. I've gained so much respect for the guy from this whole situation.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

Packers Close To A Deal With Greg Jennings
Posted by Mike Florio on June 22, 2009, 11:47 p.m.

The Green Bay Packers and receiver Greg Jennings are close to an agreement on a new contract, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

The source is a good one its Jennings himself.

The fourth-year wideout made the disclosure after a minicamp practice on Monday.

Weve been working on some things, Jennings said. Were coming pretty close, as far as my understanding is, to some type of a deal. But when I say close, we could still be far . . . if that makes sense. But I think were coming close. You just never know how long close can take to actually closing the deal.

Jennings, one of the best young receivers in the game, could end up with a contract averaging more than $8 million per year.

If theres a new Collective Bargaining Agreement by March, Jennings would be eligible for unrestricted free agency. Absent a new CBA, 2010 will proceed without a salary cap and Jennings will be a restricted free agent only.


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It really is great news that something is getting done. For some reason it seems hard to get high character guys at the position.

We're lucky to have had Driver for so long and now we have another blue chip guy to lead the group for the next five or six years.

I just wish Collins, our new QB of the Defense had this attitude:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports.....14277.html 

Jennings wanted it made clear Monday that his absences from voluntary offseason workouts were to spend time with his family - he has two young daughters - and not a negotiations ploy.

"I don't want to be a distraction to the team," Jennings said. "When you're looked upon as a leader on the team - not that I'm a main leader, but I'm looked upon as one of the leaders - your leader can't be a main distraction."
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
We're near but we're far? That says absolutely nothing. Nothing to be excited about. He's just trying to allay fan concern, avert a media circus, keep as low a profile as possible.

I think The_Green_Ninja probably had it right when he said Jennings will get his extension four games or so into next season. I think Ted Thompson will let him prove himself -- demonstrate a bit more durability and consistency -- before rolling out the big dough.
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MassPackersFan
16 years ago
I think what it says is that they are negotiating and progress has been made. That's about as much as I take from it. They difference between the two sides is closing, but everyone knows that final little bit can take a while.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

We're near but we're far? That says absolutely nothing. Nothing to be excited about. He's just trying to allay fan concern, avert a media circus, keep as low a profile as possible.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Be open minded. Have you never worked on a contract before? Close but could be far means ... we have 90% of it done, but the final details are being worked on. It could be done in 4 hours, or those final details could take 4 weeks. It's how contract discussions go. They could have the per year, the length and duration set in stone, but have to finalize the signing bonus/up front money.

You do know that every NFL Agent is available for you to contact right? Feel free to contact his agent and ask him what he meant. Chances are, you won't be answered on the first call, but if you leave a message that doesn't make you sound like a stalker, you should be good to go. The best method is to relate it to a college project inquiry. Everyone wants to help out college students 🙂
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16 years ago
You raise an excellent point, of course, but sometimes it's those final little details that are the stickiest and take longest to resolve. And how many times have heard in the media that "deals in principle" had been completed, only to see them called off at the last second? We all know that Jennings is a shining star of Ted Thompson's tenure, but the fact remains that he has virtually no leverage (beyond fan outrage at Thompson's bungling another deal, maybe) at this point. Regardless of what happens with the CBA this year, he won't be an UFA at the end of the season. The Packers can take their time with this deal, get it right, and not have to feel rushed.

The deal will get done. Jennings wants to play for the Packers, and the Packers certainly want him to play for the Packers. Only people with an axe to grind seriously believe it might not.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago
I disagree, I think they need to get Jennings wrapped up to continue to show a solid precedent of taking care of their own. Who have we locked up since August '08? Aaron Rodgers? Please, he played less than a half a season, his contract was more of one that was offered based on potential than proof being in the pudding.

We NEED to lock up Jennings as soon as possible and move on to other key members. Such as Nick Collins.

That's my take on it. I know and you know, Jennings will be extended. It needs to be done so the efforts can be put forth on the other players. Draft picks included.
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16 years ago
Non your post about being close but far apart struck me as a worry point. The history of Ted Thompson is he won't pay the big bucks to a WR because he thinks he can find another one in the draft. Remember he usually drafts atleast 1 wr a year. I hope it gets done but i'm not going to get excited about him saying it's being worked on and your right Jennings has no leverage at all. Hope Ted Thompson don't screw him.
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16 years ago
What top WR's have we let go since Thompson has been our GM?

Z2C: There are a lot of people we have to extend. Some may say, "Well then get some signed quickly!" but it strikes me as more of a strategic situations where they have to plan ahead and have an overall game plan. Since 11/06, Rodgers got an extension, Grant got an extension (August 08), Poppinga got an extension (July 08), Lee got an extension, Driver got an extension, Barnett got an extension, Jenkins got an extension, Harris got an extension, Wells got an extension...

Did I miss anyone guys (and gals)?
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16 years ago
Javon Walker. I think that was under Ted.
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16 years ago
Patience grasshoppers... patience.

Greg, that goes for you too.. cut the "feed my family" BS lines please.
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16 years ago
heres an interesting thought on the Packers signing Jennings


5. Green Bay Packers pay Greg Jennings

Favre's frustration with Packers management arises in part from Thompson's unwillingness to spend big money on free agents.

Soon, we'll all find out whether Thompson will pay big money to the players he drafted who have become stars.

At the top of the list is receiver Greg Jennings. Once Favre formally arrives in Minnesota, Thompson might feel compelled to soothe the natives, who might be upset that the 2008 trade of Favre to the Jets couldn't keep No. 4 from winding up in Minnesota eventually. The best way to change the subject might be to get Jennings locked up for the long term.

They've got the cap space to do it, and they'll have every reason to ensure that one of their best young players is fully motivated to fend off Favre and the Vikings.




Its on a list which i will post in a certain section 😛
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4PackGirl
16 years ago
almost posted something...decided against it. ahhh progress!! :D

jennings will get his contract - he doesn't seem worried so i'm not either.
CaliforniaCheez
16 years ago
Jenning's agent is the same guy who held out Cedric Benson as a rookie and then signed essentially the same deal the Bears had offered 2 months previously.

I don't really like Jennings agent but it looks like this is a deal that everyone wants and is in the best interests of all.

Remember Ted Thompson wanted to do this deal last year and Jennings wanted to wait.


One other detail I would like to point out is that 40 speed is not a good indicator of success in the NFL. It is better to look at the 3 cone drill and the shuttle run at the combine.

The ability to change direction quickly determines how well a reciever can get open. Jennings only has Jerry Rice speed at 4.6 in the 40 but he can sure get open deep.
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16 years ago

Javon Walker. I think that was under Ted.

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Ah yes, good memory.

What I find hilarious about all of the media/message board coverage of Ted Thompson as GM is the desire to speak in definite generalities about his moves and philosophy, even though he repeatedly acts and speaks in a manner that rejects some kind of dogmatic philosophy about running an NFL organization. "Ted does not spend money on WR's." "Ted does not sign FA's." "Ted does not trade up in the draft." Every situation is different and all the factors are newly weighed each time. That much has become obvious. It's like people want to simplify his approach to managing the Packers down to their layman's understanding of the job. None of us know as much as Ted does about running a football organization. I'm sure his decision processes are more in depth and complex than ours are, let alone the boxes we usually try to fit his philosophy into when we vent about him.
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16 years ago



One other detail I would like to point out is that 40 speed is not a good indicator of success in the NFL. It is better to look at the 3 cone drill and the shuttle run at the combine.

The ability to change direction quickly determines how well a reciever can get open. Jennings only has Jerry Rice speed at 4.6 in the 40 but he can sure get open deep.

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Agreed.

Football quickness is not the same as track speed. With exceptions - Willie Gault would have really been fun to throw to. I think you hit the nail on the head with the changing direction thing. If I'm not mistaken, Jennings gets sent on a lot of posts and that's where football quickness comes in (vs track speed).
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16 years ago

Javon Walker. I think that was under Ted.

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Javon was a different story. He was a first round pick that got a lot of his money on a front end loaded deal. He didn't do squat to earn what he made the first two years and then when he had the big third year he started complaining.

I think Ted felt over the three years Javon had been compensated fairly and wanted to see one more good year before redoing his contract.

That's not anything like the Jennings deal. He has outperformed what he has been paid ever since he got here.

I don't know if he's lucky or good but Javon only had one really decent season after that so Thompson's call turned out to be the right one there.

I think this whole deal about Thompson and not wanting to pay WR's stems from Walker and I wouldn't hold my hat on this one case as how he feels about that what so ever.

Thompson knows Jennings is a special player and a huge component to the success of the team and not a player you can just replace. Anybody buying a story that he thinks he can just pop somebody else in there because somebody else said so is being misguided.
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16 years ago
Yikes... that seems a little steep to me... but anyway..

Source of Course... via another Packer site...  

The Packers are apparently close to announcing that they have signed star wide receiver Greg Jennings to a contract extension. Word out of Green Bay is that the deal could be worth about $8 million a year. Jennings is one of several players that find themselves in a bind with the unresolved collective bargaining agreement. If a new CBA isnt struck before March of 2010, Jennings wouldnt be an unrestricted free agent. If no deal is in place, he would be a restricted free agent for the next two years because of language in that states in the final league year of the current CBA players wouldnt become free agents until six accrued season, as opposed the four seasons it currently takes. In this case, if the money is right, discretion is the better part of valor.


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16 years ago
pack93z...thanks for posting that, I was literally about to ask for clarification on the CBA rule that wouldn't allow jennings to leave.

I agree with zero...it seems clear to me that "tight wad ted" gives the impression that he will get things for as cheap as possible. Not always true, I know, but the perception certainly exists, and him not rewarding Jennings...as classy a player that exists in the NFL, and one of the top WRs, then that will ruffle a lot of feathers and set an awful precedent. I'm a Ted Thompson supporter, but if he doesn't pay Greg well, I too will be peaved.
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