Zero2Cool
15 years ago

I did this already, yet you are to fucking dumb to understand. That you would waste your time even doing that is telling in so many ways.

This coming from the guy who gets his info from "brett's pilot"


Fucking Dork.


Here is a tidbit for you, a daily factoid if you will - Erin has never lead the Pack to victory within the last 4 minutes of the 4th qtr. He's 0-8 in the clutch!


Bretts a liar, and Erin is a choker

"dd80forever" wrote:



Aside from the personal attack in this quote(even though the author claims to never dish out personal attacks, blah blah blah), there was a piece of information that was intriguing to myself.

Source : NFL.com click 'Final' and check out 'Play by Play' to validate the stats.


Maybe I misunderstood the comment? 0 - 8 in the fourth quarter, I have to assume that's when tied/losing, right?

edit, Rodgers numbers

Week 1 - Vikings - Winning - Win
Week 2 - Lions - Winning - Win
Week 3 - Cowboys - Losing - Lost
Week 4 - Buccaneers - Winning - Lost
Week 5 - Falcons - Losing - Lost
Week 6 - Seahawks - Winning - Win
Week 7 - Colts - Winning - Win
Week 9 - Titans - Winning - Lost (OT)
Week 10 - Vikings - Winning - Lost
Week 11 - Bears - Winning - Win
Week 12 - Saints - Losing - Lost
Week 13 - Panathers - Tied - Lost
Week 14 - Texans - Tied - Lost
Week 15 - Jaguars - Winning - Lost
Week 16 - Bears - Losing - Lost (OT)
Week 17 - Lions - Winning - Win




6 chances, 0 wins.


To be clear. The Winning/Losing is determined by the score AT the 4:00 minute mark in the fourth quarter.


Crazy, we were only losing at the 4 minute mark FOUR times last year, yet lost 10 games?



edit, removed Brett stats and comments.
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mi_keys
15 years ago

I did this already, yet you are to fucking dumb to understand. That you would waste your time even doing that is telling in so many ways.

This coming from the guy who gets his info from "brett's pilot"


Fucking Dork.


Here is a tidbit for you, a daily factoid if you will - Erin has never lead the Pack to victory within the last 4 minutes of the 4th qtr. He's 0-8 in the clutch!


Bretts a liar, and Erin is a choker

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Aside from the personal attack in this quote(even though the author claims to never dish out personal attacks, blah blah blah), there was a piece of information that was intriguing to myself. I wanted to see what Brett did in the same scenarios. Since the author of this quote lacks the knowledge to research, I did a little on Brett.



Week 1 - Dolphins - Winning - Win
Week 2 - Patriots - Losing - Lost
Week 3 - Chargers - Losing - Lost
Week 4 - Cardinals - Winning - Win
Week 6 - Bengals - Winning - Win
Week 7 - Raiders - Tied - Lost (OT)
Week 8 - Chiefs - Losing - Win
Week 9 - Bills - Winning - Win
Week 10 - Rams - Winning - Win
Week 11 - Patriots - Winning - Win (OT)
Week 12 - Titans - Winning - Win
Week 13 - Broncos - Losing - Lost
Week 14 - 49ers - Losing - Lost
Week 15 - Bills - Losing - Win (Losman fumbles in endzone, Ellis recovers)
Week 16 - Seahawks - Losing - Lost
Week 17 - Losing - Lost

"dd80forever" wrote:



Source : NFL.com click 'Final' and check out 'Play by Play' to validate the stats.


Maybe I misunderstood the comment? 0 - 8 in the fourth quarter, I have to assume that's when tied/losing, right?



Compare to Rodgers

Week 1 - Vikings - Winning - Won
Week 2 - Lions - Winning - Won
Week 3 - Dallas - Losing - Lost
Week 4 - Bucs - Winning - Lost
Week 5 - Falcons - Losing - Lost
Week 6 - Seahawks - Winning - Won
Week 7 - Colts - Winning - Won
Week 8 - Bye
Week 9 - Titans - Tied - Lost
Week 10 - Vikings - Winning - Lost (missed field goal at end of regulation)
Week 11 - Bears - Winning - Won
Week 12 - Saints - Losing - Lost
Week 13 - Panthers - Tied - Lost (went ahead at two minute warning)
Week 14 - Texans - Tied - Lost
Week 15 - Jaguars - Winning - Lost
Week 16 - Bears - Winning - Lost (missed field goal at end of regulation)
Week 17 - Lions - Winning - Won

Again you can go check nfl.com in the same way you can with Zero's breakdown.


Twice the Jets won when they had been trailing at the 4 minute mark. One of those wins came from a defensive score. Green Bay would have matched that given two made field goals. So looking at it that way offensively Green Bay really didn't choke a whole lot. At least not to the extent that people like dd80 want to make it to be. On the flip side, there were 7 cases in which we went into the final 4 minutes tied or winning and lost, 4 of which we were winning. The real chokers last year were our defense and special teams.

Green Bay was 0-6 last year when tied or losing going into the final 4 minutes.

By the way dd80, if you're going to call someone "to fucking dumb to understand" you might just want to make sure you spell "too" correctly.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
I remember that I made quite an in-depth post on this as well.

Big thing is, the haters are right. Rodgers has never gotten us a come from behind victory. Given, he has gotten us in front and has had us in place for a FG multiple times (which they tend to overlook), but still, he hasn't won one.

I think that he'll get them eventually. Especially this year, because I expect that the defense and ST can hold their own.

Also, I find it pretty dumb to call Rodgers a bad QB or 'someone you don't respect' just because he didn't get us a come from behind victory just yet. Especially looking at all the circumstances and positions he has put us in, but that's just me.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Favre had 12 of these victories in his career. Count 'em: 12.

Give Aaron Rodgers a break.

Edited to make post suitable for use outside the Back Alley.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
Maybe if our defense could have STOPPED a team last year, that "stat" wouldn't even matter.

Of course silly things like "facts" don't matter to a few people. Unless they go AGAINST AR and FOR BF that is.
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dd80forever
15 years ago
Hmmmmmmm, very odd.

You could have saved all this work by just stating the obvious


Aaron is 0-8 in comeback attempts with 4:00 or less in the game.


You need not look any farther than Brett's first game to see that Brett accomplished more in 1 single 4th quarter than A-Rod has done in his career to date.
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dd80forever
15 years ago

Favre had 12 of these victories in his career. Count 'em: 12.

Give Aaron Rodgers a break.

Edited to make post suitable for use outside the Back Alley.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




What criteria are you using here?
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Hmmmmmmm, very odd.

You could have saved all this work by just stating the obvious


Aaron is 0-8 in comeback attempts with 4:00 or less in the game.


You need not look any farther than Brett's first game to see that Brett accomplished more in 1 single 4th quarter than A-Rod has done in his career to date.

"dd80forever" wrote:



So the criteria you are using is LOSING at the 4 minute mark and coming back to win? If the team is tied or winning, it would not be considered a comeback. But the Packers were only losing at the 4:00 mark in four games?
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dd80forever
15 years ago

Hmmmmmmm, very odd.

You could have saved all this work by just stating the obvious


Aaron is 0-8 in comeback attempts with 4:00 or less in the game.


You need not look any farther than Brett's first game to see that Brett accomplished more in 1 single 4th quarter than A-Rod has done in his career to date.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



So the criteria you are using is LOSING at the 4 minute mark and coming back to win? If the team is tied or winning, it would not be considered a comeback. But the Packers were only losing at the 4:00 mark in four games?

"dd80forever" wrote:




You might want to check the TB game.

We were losing with 4:00 left.

The other error is the Jaguar game where they went ahead with 2:00 left and A-Rod threw an INT to end the game
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Hmmmmmmm, very odd.

You could have saved all this work by just stating the obvious


Aaron is 0-8 in comeback attempts with 4:00 or less in the game.


You need not look any farther than Brett's first game to see that Brett accomplished more in 1 single 4th quarter than A-Rod has done in his career to date.

"dd80forever" wrote:



So the criteria you are using is LOSING at the 4 minute mark and coming back to win? If the team is tied or winning, it would not be considered a comeback. But the Packers were only losing at the 4:00 mark in four games?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




You might want to check the TB game.

We were losing with 4:00 left.

The other error is the Jaguar game where they went ahead with 2:00 left and A-Rod threw an INT to end the game

"dd80forever" wrote:



Ahh I see. So you're saying if the Packers were losing at any point within 4 minutes left of the game regardless of the point difference, if we did not come back an win that counts against Aaron for not bringing the team back?
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