Pack93z
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15 years ago
Okay... you have been promoted to the scouting directory level of a NFC team.. you job today, rank the NFC north teams in a 1 to 4 ranking in the following categories..

Example...

K - Packers, Bears, Lions, Vikings.

Packers are rated first.. Vikings last.. Bears in this fictional example are ranked second.

BTW... drop your green and gold glasses for a couple of moments during this little exercise.. thanks in advance.

Also, please select three positions that have the greatest importance on the division as it currently sits.

QB-
RB-
FB-
WR-
TE-
OT-
OG-
OC-
DT-
DE-
OLB-
MLB/ILB-
CB-
S-
K-
P-
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
FloridaPacker88
15 years ago
QB- Packers, Bears, Vikings, Lions

RB- Vikings, Bears, Packers, Lions

FB- Vikings, Packers, Bears, Lions

WR- Packers, Lions, Vikings, Bears

TE- Bears, Packers, Lions, Vikings

OT- Vikings, Bears, Packers, Lions

OG- Vikings, Bears, Packers, Lions

OC- Packers, Lions, Vikings, Bears

DT- Vikings, Bears, Packers, Lions

DE- Bears, Vikings, Packers, Lions

OLB- Bears, Vikings, Packers, Lions

MLB/ILB- Bears, Packers, Vikings, Lions

CB- Packers, Vikings, Bears, Lions

S- Packers, Vikings, Lions, Bears

K- Lions, Packers, Vikings, Bears
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dd80forever
15 years ago
Are we countin Brett as the QB of the Vikes?
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Pack93z
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15 years ago

Are we countin Brett as the QB of the Vikes?

"dd80forever" wrote:



Note it both ways.. with or without him on the Vikes Roster.. curious as hell to see how it affect them in your eyes.. thanks.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dd80forever
15 years ago

Are we countin Brett as the QB of the Vikes?

"pack93z" wrote:



Note it both ways.. with or without him on the Vikes Roster.. curious as hell to see how it affect them in your eyes.. thanks.

"dd80forever" wrote:




I've got to get to practice right now, but the QB's situation to me is

Without Brett

Bears, Packers, Vikings, Lions


With Brett

Bears, Vikings, Packers, Lions
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
Aah, reminds me of the NFC North dream team. I'm always up for this kind of stuff. Lets give it a go.

QB - Packers/Bears, Lions, Vikings - The Packers and Bears are tied here, because Rodgers has been the starter for one year, while Cutler has shown he can perform well over multiple years. Based sololy on last year, it'd be Rodgers though. As for the Lions and Vikes. Culpepper can still get it done with some talent around him and the Vikings really have no good players at that position. Not counting Favre in here yet.

RB - Vikings, Bears, Lions, Packers - This'll change if Grant can perform up to his 2007 standard or we'll find a good balance between our RBs. Vikings first, there's no competition. Bears second, mainly because Fort can do it all and Lions third because Kevin Smith was very impressive in his rookie season and should improve with a decent passing game and a decent O-line.

FB - Packers, Bears, Lions, Vikings - Packers and Bears both have good FBs. Our stable is a bit bigger though. The Lions and Vikings don't. The Lions drafted Jerome Felton just last year though and he has room for improvement, I'll give them the upper hand on this one.

WR - Packers, Lions, Vikings, Bears - We might (arguably) not have the best WR in the division, but we do have the best stable of good ones. The Lions have Calvin Johnson and a big drop-off after that. Berrian is ok, but too much for a one-trick pony for my taste and the Bears only have TEs.

TE - Bears, Lions, Packers/Vikings - The Bears obviously have the best two TEs in the division in Olsen and Clark. The Bears drafted a great blocking TE with receiving ability and both the Packers and Vikings have an one-year wonder as starters.

OT - Vikings, Bears/Packers, Lions - The Vikings have McKinnie on the left side and a promising mauler on the right side. The Bears signed Pace, bumping them up to 2 with a big gap at the right side. The Packers have a declining player and a new guy on the line and the Lions' OTs pretty much suck, untill Cherilus is going to show something.

OG - Vikings, Packers, Bears, Lions - The Vikings have Hutchinson, arguably the best guard in the game, and a gap at the right side. We have a revolving door, if Spitz plays at guard, we're at second though, and the Bears and Lions really have no one.

OC - Bears, Packers/Lions, Vikings - Olin Kreutz can still play. I'm going with Wells at center for the Packers, I think in that case, we're equal to the Lions. The Vikings have a big question mark with Birk gone.

For DT, DE and OLB, I'm asuming that we're talking about a 4-3 formation.

DT - Vikings, Bears, Packers, Lions - The Vikings hve the most dominant pair of DTs in the league. The Bears have an elite DT in Tommie Harris and the Packers now have two big guys in Pickett and Raji. Raji still has to prove himself, though. The Lions traded their only good DT away in Cory Redding.

DE - Packers, Vikings, Bears, Lions - The Packers had the most dominant DE stable in the league. With KGB falling away, we still have the best one in the division when Kampman and Jenkins both line up at DE. The Vikings have Jared Allen with Edwards/Udeze playing LE and the Bears and Vikings really don't have that bad of a DE group either.

OLB - Bears/Lions, Packers/Vikings - From a 4-3 stance, this is a dominating position. The Bears have Briggs and Tinoisamoa. The Lions now have Simms and Julian Peterson. The Packers would have Matthews and Hawk. The Vikings would have Greenway and Leber. I've given the Bears and Lions the edge because they both have one really dominating guy at that position.

MLB - Bears/Vikings/Packers, Lions - Really, who is the best when you look at Barnett, Henderson and Urlacher. The most overhyped one is Urlacher, but I think that this is a pretty even match. The Lions aren't even close.

CB - Packers, Vikings/Bears, Lions - Our corners might be aging, but they're still both some of the best in the business. The Lions have an amazing player in Winfield, but an average guy on the other side in Griffin. The Bears have two very good corners in Tillman and Vasher. It evens eachother out. The Lions, once again, keep left behind.

S - Packers, Vikings, Lions, Bears - Although I'm still not that big a fan of Bigby, we do have a great player in Collins. The Vikings let Sharper go and now have a big hole there, but Williams is still a pretty solid player. The Lions have a good young player in Alexander and upgraded the other spot by getting Delmas early in the draft. The Bears let Mike Brown go and have nothing but gaping holes at that position. Overall, a very weak safety class.

K - Lions, Bears, Vikings, Packers - It might look weird, since Crosby is quite a good kicker, but the division is filled with studs at this position. Hason has been a great kicked since he joined the league in 1992. Gould is great. Longwell still has the edge over Crosby.

P - Bears/Lions/Vikings, Packers - I have to admit that I'm not to well educated on the punters in our division, but from what I've seen, they're all average. Except for Kapinos, who still has to prove himself and really had a below average statistical season.

Okay, I might've gone a bit overboard there, but I had a lot of fun doing it. I think it's become a pretty objective list.
15 years ago
Nicely done Rock.

I still think Olsen is horribly overrated by almost everyone. I see absolutely nothing special in him, other than his ability to push off.
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mi_keys
15 years ago
QB(No Favre)-Bears, Packers, Vikings, Lions

QB(Vikes Favre)-Bears, Packers/Vikings, Lions

RB-Vikings, Bears, Packers, Lions

FB-Packers, Lions, Bears, Vikings

WR-Packers, Lions, Vikings, Bears

TE-Bears, Packers/Vikings, Lions

OT-Vikings, Packers, Bears, Lions

OG-Bears, Packers, Vikings, Lions

OC-Bears, Packers, Lions, Vikings

DT-Vikings, Bears, Packers, Lions

DE-Bears/Vikings, Packers, Lions

OLB-Bears, Lions, Vikings, Packers

MLB/ILB-Bears, Packers, Vikings, Lions

CB-Packers, Bears, Vikings, Lions

S-Packers, Bears, Vikings, Lions

K-Bears, Packers, Vikings, Lions

P-Bears, Vikings, Lions, Packers


Note: if i do Team A/Team B I'm undecided between the two or denoting a tie in my mind.

Some of these I had a hard time making up my mind and we'll obviously get a more accurate look by the end of training camp. Here's where I'm at right now.
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dhazer
15 years ago
some great posts so far but one part i would disagree on are the lbers. I would ranked the lions #1 with Simms, Petersen, and Foote but thats just me. The lions have done so much to help their team this year i don't know who they all have. They just added an o-lineman in Jansen so their line could be good also.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Yerko
15 years ago
QB- Bears>Packers>Vikings>Lions
RB- Vikings>Bears>Packers>Lions
FB- Packers>Bears>Lions>Vikings
WR- Packers>Lions>Vikings>Bears
TE- Packers>Bears>Lions>Vikings
OT- Vikings>Packers>Bears>Lions
OG- Packers>Bears>Vikings>Lions
OC- Bears>Lions>Packers>Vikings
DT- Vikings>Packers>Bears>Lions
DE- Packers>Vikings>Bears>Lions
OLB- Lions>Packers>Bears>Vikings
MLB/ILB- Packers>Bears>Vikings>Lions
CB- Packers>Vikings>Bears>Lions
S- Packers>Bears>Lions>Vikings
K- Bears>Lions>Vikings>Packers
P- Vikings>Lions>Bears>Packers
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