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15 years ago
wow i didn't read everyone's comments so forgive me if this has been posted already. DD only has 5 fumbles and only 3 lost in 10 seasons. that is pretty solid if you ask me. 😛
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earthquake
15 years ago
Honestly i think the first half of last season Jennings was undisputably top 10, if not top 3 or 5, but he didnt have quite the same production at the end of the year.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but I thought we already had the discussion about Driver's shot at the Hall. Jennings too, even at his current rate, is a very long shot.

The NFL has become very pass happy and there are too many WRs racking up incredible numbers. Gregorious was only 6th in receiving yards and 8th in receiving TDs last year. Awesome WR, don't get me wrong, but saying he's worthy of the Hall is taking the Green and Gold lenses to a whole new level. Keep in mind, his peers include Randy Moss, TO, Steve Smith, and Larry Fitzgerald.

That said, how does Gregorious make the Hall? TDs. That means Mike McCarthy needs to be more aggressive. More passing on first downs. I saw the stats in '08 and the Rush/Pass ratio raised in terms of rushes and was the highest of the last 3 years.

Screw the run. We should really be a pass first team like we were in '07. We're top tier when it comes to WRs. It's us, NE, and Arizona. Aaron is awesome and only getting better. Then throw the damn ball more, especially in the red zone.

Gregorious needs to start getting double digit TDs year after year. That's his best shot of making the Hall. Gregorious' YAC is downright awesome. That said, play to your strengths. We all know Driver is awesome with YAC. Let's see more opportunities for YAC.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
I like that, Zombie. I know it helps to have a good running game going to get more people in the box and keep the defense on their heels. Thing is, this works the other way as well. If we pass a lot, we can get more of an outside pass rush on us, which means lanes will open up for Grant.

I think that you should go with your strong point to make your weak point better. It's pretty obvious that the strong point is our passing game and the weak point our running game. Just look at Minny, they're winning a lot and they don't even have a viable option at QB.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

The NFL has become very pass happy and there are too many WRs racking up incredible numbers.

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Zombieslayer explained the point I made earlier in this thread much better than I could have (thanks, man). Peter King outlined this same concept several months ago in his MMQB column. Because of the changes to the game in the past decade or so, there are so many receivers putting up incredible numbers -- and there are so few slots that can be filled a year -- that the queue of potential Hall of Fame nominees is choked with wide receivers. It is conceivable that many of today's top-flight performers won't even garner serious consideration, and merely being in the top ten certainly won't be enough to get in.

The only way Donald Driver sees the inside of the Hall of Fame is on a guest pass, same as the rest of us -- as he himself implicitly admitted in the interview posted a few days ago on Packers.com. Jennings has a long way to go before he'll be mentioned in the same breath as "Hall of Fame" anywhere outside Packer Nation. I stand by my assertion that it will take stellar performances in at least one SuperBowl (realistically, probably two) for him to have any chance of factoring into the HoF equation.

The good news is that with the man we currently have at the helm of our team -- and more importantly, with the administration this organization has in place -- I believe this has a decent chance of happening.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
Shancoe is pretty high on Jennings, it seems.

Nick, OH 05:14 PM ET
Who do you think is the best WR in the division Johnson, Jennings?

Visanthe Shiancoe , Minnesota Vikings
They bring different games though. They're both high caliber players and they both make big big plays, so I would say it has to be between those two. I can't choose between those guys. They are equally as explosive. Jennings probably brings more experience to the game.



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