Zero2Cool
15 years ago
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Day 6: Linebackers.

On the roster:
Aaron Kampman, Jeremy Thompson, Brad Jones, Brandon Chillar, Cyril Obiozor, Brady Poppinga, Clay Matthews, Danny Lansanah, Spencer Havner, A.J. Hawk, Nick Barnett, Desmond Bishop.

How many theyll keep: 8 to 10.

Best guess (*=starter): LOLB Kampman*, MILB Hawk*, WILB Barnett*, ROLB Poppinga*, Matthews, Thompson, Chillar, Bishop, Jones.

Breakdown: This is the most difficult position on the roster to handicap, in part because even the three players presumed as starters in the new 3-4 base defense have questions surrounding them. Can Kampman (6-4, 265), a two-time Pro Bowler at end, cover well enough when needed to be a regular on first and second down?

How well will Barnett (6-2, 236) be moving by training camp, roughly eight months after undergoing ACL reconstruction? And can Hawk (6-1, 248) rebound from his quietest season and be physical enough to effectively play the thumper position in the new scheme? Fifth-year veteran Poppinga (6-3, 247) will compete for time with Matthews (6-3, 245), the first-round draft pick (26th overall) out of Southern California.

Poppinga is on the books for $2.85 million in total compensation ($1.9 million base salary, $800,000 roster bonus) and gets the edge here to play on first down, but its safe to say Matthews will fit into rotation and could be a starter by seasons end, if not sooner. Thompson (6-4, 270), a fourth-round pick last year who made little impact as an end (13 tackles in nine games), is expected to back up Kampman on the left side.

Chillar (6-3, 243) could factor at multiple spots, much as he did as a strong-side, weak-side and nickel linebacker in the 4-3 last year (65 tackles). Bishop (6-2, 238) figures as a backup inside, and hes good enough on special teams (27 tackles in two seasons) that he seems to have a decent chance to stick on the roster. Jones (6-3, 232), a seventh-round draft pick, played in a scheme at Colorado that incorporated 3-4 elements and led the Buffaloes last season with 14 tackles for loss and seven sacks.

His fit for the scheme, presuming he can put on weight, would seem to give him an edge over Danny Lansanah (6-1, 248), who was a bit player on special teams (two tackles) after his midseason call-up last season and will try to earn a backup spot on the inside. Havner (6-3, 248), another inside guy, put in parts of three seasons on the practice squad before getting his chance late last season and seems unlikely to make the cut. Obiozor (6-4, 267) received the largest signing bonus ($6,500) of any undrafted rookie and has the size to play on the outside. Special-teams play will be the tiebreaker for the last spot or two on the 53-man roster.


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bozz_2006
15 years ago
there's certainly a lot of question marks on defense this year. I'd be worried if it weren't for the confidence (is there a stronger word that I could use instead of 'confidence'?) I have in our new defensive coaches.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm not one bit worried about Kampy. The guy's got the best work ethic on the team, and will learn the new role and eventually excel at it. Capers will also tweak the scheme to fit him.

Even if he looks lost the first few games, have patience. Capers knows Kampy is the best of our front 7 and will plan accordingly.
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Dulak
15 years ago

I said it before and I'll say it again, I'm not one bit worried about Kampy. The guy's got the best work ethic on the team, and will learn the new role and eventually excel at it. Capers will also tweak the scheme to fit him.

Even if he looks lost the first few games, have patience. Capers knows Kampy is the best of our front 7 and will plan accordingly.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



ya even thou there are question marks in Kamps play; we have a Great DC - he said so himself he's going to make the system fit the player not the other way around.

and ya well be playing normal 4-3 most of the time anyways so wont be any change. 50-60% of the time its a 4-3 setup as told by DC (when hired).
Pack93z
15 years ago
Many people seem to be fretting over the talent level here.. IMO, we have plenty of talent on the roster at linebacker.. it is Greene and Moss's responsibility to get them to play up to that talent level.

While I may question the job that Moss did last year with the linebackers and think the only reason he was retained was because of the assistant head coach title, I have confidence in that they reduced his role to inside backers only, Greene has been added to the staff and will bring the right kind of fire and that Capers is running the show overall..

But I can assure this.. I won't hold my opinion back on this group if they don't perform.. unlike some of the Packer beat writers.. call it like it is and honestly..
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
zombieslayer
15 years ago



ya even thou there are question marks in Kamps play; we have a Great DC - he said so himself he's going to make the system fit the player not the other way around.

and ya well be playing normal 4-3 most of the time anyways so wont be any change. 50-60% of the time its a 4-3 setup as told by DC (when hired).

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Yes, and I trust his judgment. His record as DC speaks for itself.

1992 - Steelers - 2nd in points allowed
1993 - Steelers - 8th in points allowed
1994 - Steelers - 2nd in points allowed
1999 - Jaguars - 1st in points allowed
2000 - Jaguars - 16th in points allowed
2007 - Dolphins - 30th in points allowed

Besides the '07 campaign, he's coached some pretty good Ds. In '08, he was a Secondary Coach with the Patriots who had the 8th best D.

I think Capers is a good example of the Peter Principle. He has no business whatsoever being a HC, but he's a dang good DC.
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PackerTraxx
15 years ago



ya even thou there are question marks in Kamps play; we have a Great DC - he said so himself he's going to make the system fit the player not the other way around.

and ya well be playing normal 4-3 most of the time anyways so wont be any change. 50-60% of the time its a 4-3 setup as told by DC (when hired).

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Yes, and I trust his judgment. His record as DC speaks for itself.

1992 - Steelers - 2nd in points allowed
1993 - Steelers - 8th in points allowed
1994 - Steelers - 2nd in points allowed
1999 - Jaguars - 1st in points allowed
2000 - Jaguars - 16th in points allowed
2007 - Dolphins - 30th in points allowed

Besides the '07 campaign, he's coached some pretty good Ds. In '08, he was a Secondary Coach with the Patriots who had the 8th best D.

I think Capers is a good example of the Peter Principle. He has no business whatsoever being a HC, but he's a dang good DC.

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I agree, Capers hire was the best of all the off season moves IMO. With the other hires we now have a very good D staff. I look for a huge improvement even with the new 3-4 change over.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Special Assistant/Secondary with New England. Let's not misrepresent the Special Assistant aspect of his duties!!! 🙂
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