wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
16 years ago

First off Boldin wouldn't play in Green Baye because he wouldn't get the money. Also has Jennings made the mistake and signed a contract extension yet? I don't think he has so how can you say we would have a great tandem for years to come.

Why i wanted Crabtree is to cover if Jennings leaves to free agency, before you guys get your panties in a bunch, listen to the reasoning i see Jennings leaving plain and simple. The NFL is a business and with an uncapped year next year Jennings will be offered a ton of money we won't match. If somehow Jennings signed an extension he would be one of the stupidest players in the nfl. We drafted Crabtree he would be just as good as Jennings and we would still have Driver. How does Driver and Jones look to you folks now?

"Trippster" wrote:



First off, Jennings would not be the stupidest player in the NFL as there is no such word as stupidest. He might be considered the most stupid or more stupid.

Why is it you cant get past Crabtree? Same with Favre and Thompson?

I am sensing a pattern here that is a little unnerving. an inability to accept change and the present.

Have you had any restraining orders put on you lately? j/k :icon_smile:

We already have one of the strongest receiving corps in football. Why would anyone feel the need to strengthen what is already considered a major strength. A football team, as is with any type of team, is only as good as it biggest weakness. That is how you improve a team, from the weakness on up. I feel that Thompson has been slowly been doing that. It is not a one, two , or even a four year project. It takes a while and I feel we are headed in the right direction.

"dhazer" wrote:



I understand Dhazer's hypothesis. (Actually it is more of a theory than a hypothesis.) He thinks Jennings will be gone after this year which will greatly weaken the receiving corps. (I disagree with it but I understand it.) Hazer therefore is looking for ways to shoer up the alleged weak WR group by adding Crabtree or Boldin.

The good news is that it is not needed.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
Jennings wouldn't be eligible for banking in on the uncapped year until the 2012 season though.
UserPostedImage
dhazer
16 years ago

Jennings wouldn't be eligible for banking in on the uncapped year until the 2012 season though.

"SlickVision" wrote:




how do you figure he will be classified a restricted free agent. So why can't he get the big bank?
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
DarkaneRules
16 years ago
Dhazer why do you have to make us sad ... why... Go take a lollipop from a baby or something why doncha!

:-p
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
zombieslayer
16 years ago



We already have one of the strongest receiving corps in football. Why would anyone feel the need to strengthen what is already considered a major strength.

"Trippster" wrote:



Bingo.

With 5 to 6 being average, 10 being the best in the NFL and 1 being the worst, our WR corps is a 9, or arguably a 9.5 (Arizona and the Pats have the best WR corps).

Our DL on the other hand is a 3 or 4.

So, we get Crabtree and we go up to 10. Big improvement.

I'm stoked Ted Thompson went after the DL. Seeing a mediocre RB rush for 5 yards right up the middle, then 6 yards right up the middle and get the first down, then another 5 yards. Then another 5 yards and another first down. And this happens all day long. That was driving me nuts.

So was the opposing QB who had five or six seconds before his pocket collapsed. Geez. You wonder why I had more fun watching the Jets last year than the Packers? That's why. I HATE seeing us lose. Yes, I take the games too seriously. So sue me.

I don't want to see the same s*** in '09 that I was seeing in '08. Crabtree is not going to stuff the middle of the DL, nor is he going to put any pressure on the opposing QB. He will simply help us even up the score after the opposing team takes the lead because we can't stop them from scoring.

Hats off to TT. He pissed me off last year. This year, I want to shake his hand. I'm stoked about Raji and Matthews and glad we didn't get Crabtree.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Rockmolder
16 years ago



We already have one of the strongest receiving corps in football. Why would anyone feel the need to strengthen what is already considered a major strength.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Bingo.

With 5 to 6 being average, 10 being the best in the NFL and 1 being the worst, our WR corps is a 9, or arguably a 9.5 (Arizona and the Pats have the best WR corps).

Our DL on the other hand is a 3 or 4.

So, we get Crabtree and we go up to 10. Big improvement.

I'm stoked Ted Thompson went after the DL. Seeing a mediocre RB rush for 5 yards right up the middle, then 6 yards right up the middle and get the first down, then another 5 yards. Then another 5 yards and another first down. And this happens all day long. That was driving me nuts.

So was the opposing QB who had five or six seconds before his pocket collapsed. Geez. You wonder why I had more fun watching the Jets last year than the Packers? That's why. I HATE seeing us lose. Yes, I take the games too seriously. So sue me.

I don't want to see the same s*** in '09 that I was seeing in '08. Crabtree is not going to stuff the middle of the DL, nor is he going to put any pressure on the opposing QB. He will simply help us even up the score after the opposing team takes the lead because we can't stop them from scoring.

Hats off to Ted Thompson. He pissed me off last year. This year, I want to shake his hand. I'm stoked about Raji and Matthews and glad we didn't get Crabtree.

"Trippster" wrote:



It was my first year of actually watching entire NFL games, so I enjoyed them all. I have to admit though, watching the Packers defense was pretty frustrating.

Especially if I had watched a Ravens game the week before or so. You see them running around, coming with 6 people, still being able to cover the WRs, forcing either a dump-off for 2 yards or getting a sack. I hope our defense will go that way. It's a bit unrealistic to expect that right away, but if we get there in year 3 or so, I'm a very, very happy fan.
Pack93z
16 years ago

Jennings wouldn't be eligible for banking in on the uncapped year until the 2012 season though.

"dhazer" wrote:




how do you figure he will be classified a restricted free agent. So why can't he get the big bank?

"SlickVision" wrote:



First.. if they tendered him at the highest amount, I believe the compensation is a 1st and a 3rd... so that alone would detract many a team.

Then add to it the Packers would have the right to match any offer given, most teams left won't want to do the negotiating for the Packers.. the only real risk here is some type of poison pill slid into the contract.. say a bonus clause for 5 TD catches in Lambeau in a given season with a high escalator in it.. mild risk.

Ironic that his conversation takes place in this thread, as that 1st and 3rd pick is what is believed to be asked for from the Cards.. and no one has bitten to date.

And if the Packers are backed into a corner.. there is always the franchise tag..

Here is to none of that being needed. :cherry:
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
4PackGirl
16 years ago

dhazer, sounds like to me that you don't want Jennings here.....is that because Ted Thompson drafted him and he turned out to be a great player?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

"dhazer" wrote:




Where do you get i don't want Jennings here? Just because i said if he signed an extension he would be stupid? Its all about the Benjamins buddy. Would you sign an extension when you know you could hit the lottery?

"go.pack.go." wrote:



i would knowing full well at any given moment, my career could be over in a flash! jennings is a religious person & i hope has learned that life is about a helluva lot more than the friggin "benjamins"!! sign a nice extension, stay above the fray, & continue doing a job you love with a team you (hopefully) love!
zombieslayer
16 years ago


It was my first year of actually watching entire NFL games, so I enjoyed them all. I have to admit though, watching the Packers defense was pretty frustrating.

Especially if I had watched a Ravens game the week before or so. You see them running around, coming with 6 people, still being able to cover the WRs, forcing either a dump-off for 2 yards or getting a sack. I hope our defense will go that way. It's a bit unrealistic to expect that right away, but if we get there in year 3 or so, I'm a very, very happy fan.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



Yes it was.

I became a huge Aaron Rodgers fan in '08 and didn't get the dislike for the guy. He was great, but every time AR would get us a lead, the D would let the opposing team score. Plus, most of the time the D would fold early and we'd be playing catchup. How many times did AR even up the score only to see the D lose it in the final minute?

Actually, it isn't unrealistic to think a D can be improved overnight. Fix a few holes and we got a good D. We actually may have the best DB corps in the NFL. Woody, Al, Nick, and Atari. Name four others you'd rather have. The trick is you have to pick a team, you can't just pick four guys from four different teams. Bet you can't do it.

The problem is our DL. Fix the DL, you fix the D. Plug the middle, you stop the run. Generate pressure on the opposing QB, and we now have a top 10 D.

Here are my IFs:
1) Jenkins is healty in '09,
2) Bustin plays 16 games. He doesn't even have to be good. He just needs to give our other boys a breather. That's all he has to do.
3) Raji starts and helps plug up the middle.
4) Kampy continues to be the Kampy we know and love.

All four of these happen and we got a top 10 D in '09. I have faith in Dom. I've seen him in action and he's good, very good.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Rockmolder
16 years ago


It was my first year of actually watching entire NFL games, so I enjoyed them all. I have to admit though, watching the Packers defense was pretty frustrating.

Especially if I had watched a Ravens game the week before or so. You see them running around, coming with 6 people, still being able to cover the WRs, forcing either a dump-off for 2 yards or getting a sack. I hope our defense will go that way. It's a bit unrealistic to expect that right away, but if we get there in year 3 or so, I'm a very, very happy fan.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Yes it was.

I became a huge Aaron Rodgers fan in '08 and didn't get the dislike for the guy. He was great, but every time Aaron Rodgers would get us a lead, the D would let the opposing team score. Plus, most of the time the D would fold early and we'd be playing catchup. How many times did Aaron Rodgers even up the score only to see the D lose it in the final minute?

Actually, it isn't unrealistic to think a D can be improved overnight. Fix a few holes and we got a good D. We actually may have the best DB corps in the NFL. Woody, Al, Nick, and Atari. Name four others you'd rather have. The trick is you have to pick a team, you can't just pick four guys from four different teams. Bet you can't do it.

The problem is our DL. Fix the DL, you fix the D. Plug the middle, you stop the run. Generate pressure on the opposing QB, and we now have a top 10 D.

Here are my IFs:
1) Jenkins is healty in '09,
2) Bustin plays 16 games. He doesn't even have to be good. He just needs to give our other boys a breather. That's all he has to do.
3) Raji starts and helps plug up the middle.
4) Kampy continues to be the Kampy we know and love.

All four of these happen and we got a top 10 D in '09. I have faith in Dom. I've seen him in action and he's good, very good.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I think our defense can improve. There's nearly nowhere to go but up. The thing I was referring to, though, was the well-oiled machine that is the Ravens defense. It's controlled chaos. You need a good leader or two, a safety who can read everything, a team that knows who's where and doing what at every time. I don't think you can put that together in one year. Most of these things are barely coachable, but come with experience.

As for your better secondary. We're one of the couple of top teams.

The Jets are up there. CB - Darrelle Ravis, Lito Sheppard, S - Jim Leonhard, Kerry Rhodes.

The Steelers can just barely hold on the no. 1 spot in my eyes aswell, mainly because of their SS and CB depth. CB - Ike Taylor, Deshea Townsend, S - Ryan Clark, Troy Polamalu.

Then, ofcourse, the Ravens are up there aswell. Their corner position is just a little shaky in my eyes with the release of McAlister.

But, I agree, we're one of the top 3 secondarys easily, in my eyes.

I also like your Ifs. One thing I'd like to add though. Hoping that our corners aren't declining. I know they're great, but they are getting up there in age. Especially Harris. It's a miracle he's still playing on such a high level. We might take that for granted a little to much.
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
    Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
    dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
    Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
    Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
    Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
    Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
    dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
    dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
    wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
    Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
    dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
    Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
    Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
    Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
    Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
    Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
    beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
    Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
    Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
    Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions
    dfosterf (18-Jun) : Beats the hell out of a Vikings signing
    Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : Baltimore Ravens now have signed former Packers CB Jaire Alexander.
    dfosterf (14-Jun) : TWO magnificent strikes for touchdowns. Lose the pennstate semigeezer non nfl backup
    dfosterf (14-Jun) : There was minicamp Thursday. My man Taylor Engersma threw
    dfosterf (11-Jun) : There will be a mini camp practice Thursday.
    Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : He's been sporting a ring for a while now. It's probably Madonna.
    Martha Careful (10-Jun) : We only do the tea before whoopee, it relaxes me.
    wpr (10-Jun) : That's awesome Martha.
    Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : How's the ayahuasca tea he makes, Martha?
    Martha Careful (10-Jun) : Turns out he like older women
    Martha Careful (10-Jun) : I wasn't supposed to say anything, but yes the word is out and we are happy 😂😂😂
    Mucky Tundra (10-Jun) : I might be late on this but Aaron Rodgers is now married
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2025 Packers Schedule
    Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
    COMMANDERS
    Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
    Browns
    Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
    Cowboys
    Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
    BENGALS
    Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
    Cardinals
    Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
    Steelers
    Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
    PANTHERS
    Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
    EAGLES
    Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
    Giants
    Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
    Broncos
    Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
    Bears
    Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
    RAVENS
    Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
    Vikings
    Recent Topics
    5h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

    1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

    23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    20-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    18-Jun / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

    16-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

    15-Jun / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    14-Jun / Around The NFL / beast

    14-Jun / Community Welcome! / dfosterf

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.