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Zero2Cool
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21 days ago

This will be a little bit different. Good or bad?

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wpr
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21 days ago

All change is evil.
I worked a chain once for a high school game. Since I was the newby they stuck me at the end. The ref told me where to put the stick and I did what I was told. I was only a couple of years out of high school it was a lot of fun. Sadly they didn't ask for my help again.

beast
Select Member

20 days ago

I'm confused, why the heck should we trust a "virtual" measurement? Especially if they're not explaining how they're doing the virtual measurement.

Because virtually, they could put the ball in the Playboy Mansion, that doesn't mean the NFL ball carrier carried it to that spot.

So what is marking the ball?

A human? A virtual human? AI? Computer? Is there a chip in the ball? How does the process work? As at the end of the day, someone or something has to choose a virtual spot for the virtual ball...

And how do we know that spot is realistic to what actually happened on the field?

It might be good, but I'm not going to trust it until I see more details, and see how it actually works....

Of course, I don't trust the NFL, I fully believe the NFL has changed rules mid-season, stated the rule has not changed, and ruled it incorrectly to what the stated rulebook says, for like 1.5 years and then updated the rulebook after seeing that it works.

So the NFL doesn't follow the rules... so I don't trust them either.

packerfanoutwest
Member

20 days ago

This does nothing to better the game. It's all about the point spread of the game and where the official places the ball. Put a chip in both in ends of the ball and all doubt will be removed. Just like, it's not how many voted, it's who counts the vote. And why don't they put cameras on the goal line?

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

20 days ago

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest

A ball with a chip won't know when forward progress has been stopped. It could trigger an alert that the ball did pass let's say the goalline line though. Then they can review it quickly and see if it happened before the whistle and before forward progress was stopped.

wpr
Preferred Member

20 days ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

And what happens when a RB is tackled, his knee is down yet he keeps falling forward? It has the potential for misreading by a chip. There's also the players who place the ball down an arms length further down field. This things can be overcome but the officials along with the IT have to account for them.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

20 days ago

Originally Posted by: wpr

It wouldn't be any different then it is now in that aspect. Once the whistle is blown, there's no reason for the indicator to be triggered. This is where the quick review would come into play if it was a bang bang thing. All scoring plays are reviewed anyway so it's not an additional review. The ball/chip crossing the plan would just be a marker for them to review up to.

Outside of scoring plays. I'm just not sure how a chip would would help things.

I would like to see both used side by side. Continue same ole same ole with officials and also use new technology with chip thingy.

beast
Select Member

19 days ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

NBA already solved this issue, they have set up their clock timers to stop automatically when a whistle is blown...

Just have the tracker mark where the ball is when the red blew the whistle or a second or two before the whistle is blown.

The physical technology has been there for decades for the NFL to upgrade, they simply have decided not to, as they want control and they can quietly control people more than they can control technology, as people will want access to the technology, where we can't get open and honest interviews from the Refs.

I still say the Fail Mary play and Saints getting screwed in the playoffs against the Rams were directly because the Refs were ordered not to call penalties in the last two minutes, and let the players play.

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