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4 months ago
I think it's fair to say it's no longer wwwway to early for Mock Drafts, so starting a new thread here.

Packers re-sign C Myers, ILB McDuffie, ILB Wilson, K McManus.

Packers either restructure or release CB Alexander. If they release him, then they sign a veteran CB from FA (maybe even Rasul Douglas, whom might be a better fit of this new scheme than the old one).

Packers also go after WR Davante Adams, should he be released by the Jets. Not sure if they sign him, or if Rodgers new team signs him.

PFF doesn't like that I didn't go for what they consider to be needs, but I went with players that I thought were best on the board. THAT, and according to PFF, I totally over drafted TE Gadsden but I think he'll be selected before the 6th round.

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1.19 LT Banks
Banks is a great pass protector but also has done well in run blocking, and would be a sure ungrade over Walker in run blocking. Also even with re-signing Myers, the Packers still have Walker, Rhyan and Tom going into contract years.

2.55 DT Collins
Collins was used mostly as a two gap NT, which has some absolutely hating his pass rush, as his job was to stop the run and keep the LBers clean, but if you solely focus on passing situations (3rd downs and such) when given the green light to full on pass rush, he can really get after it too. Also very big body at 6'5", 320lbs, with long arms. Not elite in one area, but also no clear weakness, as he can do it all well.

3.87 CB Thomas
Based on LaFleaur's comments, the Packers were hoping to run lots of Cover 3, like the Seahawks Legion of Boom, which the 49ers with Robert Saleh and Jeff Hafley copied, including getting CB Richard Sherman.

CB Thomas is CLEARLY a physical press man CB with sticky coverage. He's big drawback is that he's just an average athlete and if a WR gets by his press, they potentially can be burned by speed. But if we're looking to play press man cover 3, then Thomas potential could be a very good fit and talent for the scheme.

5.159 TE Gadsden
PFF has Gadsden rated at 213, but I have Gadsden above WR Nick Nash, whom they have rated at 161. I see both Gadsden and Nash as similar players, basically being large slot WRs.

Gadsden is supposedly 6'4", 245 lbs, and runs about a 4.6 in the 40. (If so, basically he's a smaller TE Musgrave), with two college seasons of 900+ yards, on both sides of an injured 2023 season. While mainly being an extra large WR, he's also got an average TE block grade, so maybe he can hold his own at a blocker, though that certainly won't be considered his strength at the NFL level. But great body control and movement skills for a guy his size. And used as a WR, slot WR and TE, though mostly slot WR, but he's got some versatility in there.

6.198 CB Fortune
Surprised he fell this far, but basically Fortune had GREAT coverage in 2024, but HORRIBLE run defense. I'm not sure if it's possible to balance him out, or play him to his strengths and hide his run defense, but his coverage is so good, Taking a shot in the dark. If he busts, then it's just a 6th round pick.

Interesting that I drafted USC (South Carolina) but there was also USC (California) CB Jaylin Smith available, who specializes in man coverage, and the slot role, plus a number of uses on STs, was surely also in consideration. Smith and his ST value is probably the safer pick, but I guess I went for boom or bust with the Fortune.

Trade
Packers trade a future 2026 6th round pick, for a very late 2025 6th round pick. I considered taking both USC CBs, but ended up going a different direction.

6.199 WR Lambert-Smith
In 4 years at Penn State, he had a couple of 500 yards seasons, but nothing special, transfered to Auburn and almost put up 1,000 yards in the SEC, and probably not actually going to fall this far, as he showed a lot of skills in the post season Shrine Bowl for players going to the NFL and because supposedly he runs a 4.35. So no as big, but supposedly just as fast as Christian Watson, which might be nice to have with Watson expected to still be recovering at the start of the season.

7.238 OT Pierce
Honestly, I don't know how Pierce falls to the 7th, unless teams simply think he's not athletic to play OT at the NFL. At 6'8", 340 lbs (and he's lost a lot of weight), he just keeps improving every season. No, he'll never be the most mobile guy, but I think he's show that he's mobile enough to play, and if he gets his hands on you, he can be an absolute mauler. Heavy zone run teams might avoid him, but power run man teams might absolutely love him. And from an off the field perspective, he sounds amazing, the nicer dude possible, whom is able to flip a switch during the game and be very mean to opponents on the field.

Also while it can be harder for those huge OL to get low and play on the interior OL, the Eagles just signed 6'7", 360lb Mekhi Becton, using him at OG they won a Super Bowl, and he's only ⅜ shorter than Pierce. So maybe it's not totally out of the question that Price potentially might play some OG.

7.250 Hemingway
Similar to Wooden, Hemingway is a DT/DE tweeter, maybe not athletic enough for DE, but possible too small for DT, but I believe Hemingway can be used well as a pass rushing DT from the interior, which I believe Hafley was looking for more pass rush from the DTs.

UDFAs
LB Teddye Buchanan, California
DB Shamari Simmons, Arizona State (slot/S)
QB Brady Cook, Missouri
C Drew Kendall, Boston College
OT Esa Pole, Washington State
WR Ja'Corey Brooks, Louisville
OL Bryce Cabeldue, Kansas
DT Jared Harrison-Hunte, SMU
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Zero2Cool
4 months ago

I think it's fair to say it's no longer wwwway to early for Mock Drafts, so starting a new thread here.

Originally Posted by: beast 


It is safe to say it is still wway too early for Mock Drafts.

// hey, I gotta keep at it, right?

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dfosterf
4 months ago
No longer waay too early.
Not too early, either.
Just early.
I've run a couple myself, but am in the information gathering stage, so mine would be too early, but...



Simce Beast does this all the time, I think his posts on the subject are timely and worth consideration.
beast
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4 months ago
I'm not surprised the admin moved my post... but I don't understand why they moved it under a 2023 Mock Draft. Trolling?
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Zero2Cool
4 months ago

I'm not surprised the admin moved my post... but I don't understand why they moved it under a 2023 Mock Draft. Trolling?

Originally Posted by: beast 


What do you mean? What post?
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beast
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4 months ago

What do you mean? What post?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


My first post in this thread was a brand new thread.

Then, it some how got put under a 2023 Mock Draft, which is now the first post.
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Zero2Cool
4 months ago

My first post in this thread was a brand new thread.

Then, it some how got put under a 2023 Mock Draft, which is now the first post.

Originally Posted by: beast 


Ugh. WTF. I messed up something.

Should be unmesssed up now.
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beast
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4 months ago

Ugh. WTF. I messed up something.

Should be unmesssed up now.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Thank you. I fully expected you to move it, but I thought it would of been moved to the WAAAAY too far away draft thread.

I just didn't understand the meaning behind putting the 2025 Mocks under a 2023 Mock Draft. And thought there was some hidden meaning.

Thank you for the correction or just keeping the 2025 together with the 2025, and not mixing the years.
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4 months ago

Thank you. I fully expected you to move it, but I thought it would of been moved to the WAAAAY too far away draft thread.

I just didn't understand the meaning behind putting the 2025 Mocks under a 2023 Mock Draft. And thought there was some hidden meaning.

Thank you for the correction or just keeping the 2025 together with the 2025, and not mixing the years.

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Nah, just another example me trying to fix things and breaking them worse. It's the off-season, we try to be less GRUMBLE GRUMBLE STAY ON TOPIC during that time. Unless it's super egregious like topic name "Draft Jack Becht" and then we talk about some CB ... then that makes sense to split.
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3 months ago
Think we'll sign many more FAs?

Or is it Draft Season Yet?
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