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1.23 Trade with Ravens, where we swap 1st round picks, and they get CB Alexander, were Packers get their 2nd and 4th this year, and 3rd next year. Probably unrealistic trade, but PFF approved it.

1.27 WR Burden III
No clue why PFF has Burden consistently dropping but they do, he's under 6' but other than that, there isn't much bad to say about Burden, other than his numbers clearly dropped, but as scouting reports suggest, that's probably mainly because defenses were selling out to stop him, and daring Missouri to win with someone else. Also some note that Burden looked bored, not getting the ball as much, and Missouri having an overly simple offense scheme, that failed to be more complex and find ways to get the ball into his hands. But when he gets the ball, it's like watching a physical and fast RB against DBs.


2.29 DT Nolen
Commanders have the 2nd least 2025 draft capital followed by only the Vikings. So they take two 2nd round picks for a late 1st.

Nolen might be the most naturally given penetrating DT in this draft class, and his technique isn't overly good, meaning he's got a lot of upside and room for improvement. Packers couldn't run their preferred Defensive Scheme as the DL wasn't getting enough pressure, I actually probably wouldn't mind if both these 1st round picks were used on DL, assuming they're successful selections.


3.87 OL Milum
Lots of OL to select from here, sort of pick the type that interest you, I went with West Virginia's long term starting LT, as I believe he's got the best feet and pass blocking potential, which is how I believe they also selected Arizona's LT Morgan in the 1st round a year ago. Like Morgan, Milum has short arms, but Milum's arm are an inch shorter which has a number of people taking him off their OT board, but Milum is actually better against the run than pass, so in theory he should be able to play well at OG.


4.124 CB Williams (Kick Returner)
4.128 CB Alexander
I've decided to cover these two CBs together, as they're both aggressive press man CBs, that could and should add more strength. They're not considered the best athletes in shorts, but turn on the tape and they're quite sticky and the best athletes aren't getting away from them very quickly. Both seem like great fits for Cover 3 (the defensive scheme they were supposedly trying to run, the Scheme the Hafley and the 49ers copied from the Seahawks Legion of Boom with Richard Sherman, and the 49ers signed and Hafley did coach Richard Sherman). Of these two Williams is the better athlete and he also has returned Kickoffs, while Alexander hasn't played on STs. Alexander is extremely aggressive against the run, while Williams aggression against the run comes and goes.


4.129 DE Jones
Gute likes himself very large athletic DEs, and at 6'5" 280lbs, that's exactly what Jones is. He's big, athletic and physical. But Jones has some negatives as well, in that he lets OL get into his pads too much, doesn't know how to use his length well enough to keep OL out of his pads, he's consistent but not creative, you know what to expect, but so does the OL, and while he gives 100% effort on each and every play, not holding anything in reserves, that also means his energy tank will be used up quicker and you'll need a coach willing and able to notice him and quickly pull him when that starts happening, he'll need to be kept in a consistent rotation to keep him fresh, as he'll give everything (which is great) but then run low on energy (which is not great).


5.175 OG Jones Jr.
Jones Jr. was a top 10 IOL recruit out of highschool, but went on to start 3 years at RT for LSU. I figure he'll go higher than this, as there is a lot of love/hate for his play and potential, but in the pros, he should probably slide in to OG, as some of his major errors are caused because he struggles to keep up with the speed outside, and then he panics, and it's down hill from there. But even at OG, he'll still need to improve on body control and hand placement, but if you just look at the highlights, he could also become an absolutely dominant player. So draft grade evaluation, will probably depend on what the evaluation values most, the positives or negatives. But Jones Jr. is a player that could absolutely boom or absolutely bust, and it's a risk, but if you can develop him, it could pay off.


6.206 OT Pierce
Alright, so this is one of my draft crushes and might be a horrible pick, but I just dislike the disrespect he's getting.

Pierce is 6'8" 340+lbs, and has heavy feet, and will struggle against elite speed rushers, and he's probably too tall to consider moving inside, so he's limited with a clear weakness that hard to hide, other than with a chipping TE or RB helping him out.

On the other hand, he's 6'8" 340lbs, with 36" arm length, and if he's able to get on you, he clearly has disruptive power to force people to go around him, or get flatted by him.

But that's not why he's my draft crush, throughout the years, there have been plenty of oversized OT (too big to move inside) that have great power, but lack the quickness or speed to play OT and usually I want to stay completely away from them.

To me, Pierce is different than others because he's CLEARLY improved each and every off-season. EVERY YEAR, he's CLEARLY better than the previous year. I'm not sure if this can continue in the pros, but I'm interested to watch and find out.

Also Pierce used to be an out of shape kid over 400lbs, and just getting in or out of the car, would move the entire car, before walking on at Rutgers, they warned him it would be a tough road, but he wanted to get in better shape and he wanted to play. And from the sounds of it, while he plays extremely extremely mean, when the pads come off, he's also considered by some to be the nicest person on earth.

So he might be a bust, but his college play, he deserves an opportunity!


6.211 TE/WR Gadsden II
Play wise, Gadsden is a large slot WR in a TE sized body, don't expect to see quality blocking from him. But he has had multiple 900 yards seasons as a 6'5", 245lb frame with a very low drop percentage and a good win rate of contested passes being caught. In a straight line, he runs fast like Musgrave. I'm not sure if I actually believe he'll fall this far with receiving TEs being the new in thing, but once again, he's more of a large slot WR than TE due to lack of blocking. Also he has hip tightness, meaning he's best in a straight line, such as going deep then quick turning routes underneath. Dad was an NFL WR.


7.237 DT Robinson
Simple put, Robinson is a powerful bully on the field. He's going be extremely physical, be the first person to hit every single time with good quockness, and he's going to demand the OL either match his physical style or get run over. Robinson weakness is that if the OL can/will match the physical power style, than Robinson has no other tricks, has he has short arms, no creative, and not overly big at 288lbs. But amazing effort with power and quickness, even if he'll never be a star, he can still be a physical tone setter. Even to practice against, known who's ready to bring it for game day.


7.245 CB Hill
I honestly don't expect Hill to drop this far, as he's 6', 215lbs, very physical and supposedly in a straight line runs an explosive sub 4.4 in the 40 yard dash. Hill's issue is that he has a WR background, got moved to CB, but only has one season (2023) of playing 275 snaps or more (injury in 2024), so he's very inexperienced. But I'm sure someone will be willing to gamble on big, straight line explosive and very physical tackler, and some absolutely will be considering moving him to Safety, as he's great going forward. But while he's straight line fast, he's only average speed when not in a straight line, and without the coverage instincts can't play man coverage, so he's limited to outside zone coverage roles. But if you can get a system where he can stay back, wait for the ball and then just attack once the ball comes out, then he potentially could be great. But he needs the right system or role for that. In the meantime, he's expected to be a very good ST player.


7.250 WR Brooks (Punt & Kick Returner)
Brooks is probably too light (185lbs) to be on Gute's draft board, but if Nixon was serious about trying to get off the return duties, then we need to consider other options. He's also blocked multiple punts over his career.

As a Sophomore, Brooks looked like he'd be a future star at Alabama, posting a good number of TDs but injuries took out his junior year, and he transfered to Louisville for his senior year.

Brooks strength is deep ball tracking and a lot of little tricks to create final separation right before the catch point. His speed is argued, as some suggestions 4.46, while others claim 4.65 which might be good for a LB ot TE, but quite slow for a WR. Also he decided not to run the 40 at the combine, which might suggest the slower number is more correct.

Brooks is a natural on deep balls, but he has a lot to work on underneath, such as releases and routes, but I'm mainly grabbing him as a Punt Returner option and STer.
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Tyler Warren TE Penn State I LOVE THIS GUY
From high school quarterback to record-setting tight end, Tyler Warren's journey exemplifies the modern evolution of the position. The 6'6", 257-pound athlete rewrote Penn State's tight end record books, finishing his career with 22 total touchdowns - the most ever by a Nittany Lion at the position. His breakthrough 2024 campaign saw him shatter single-season marks with 67 catches and 808 yards, highlighted by a historic 17-catch, 224-yard masterpiece against USC that stands as a Big Ten tight end record.

Warren's athletic bloodlines and multi-sport background laid the foundation for his versatility. A four-year letterman in football, basketball, and baseball at Atlee High School, he initially starred as a dual-threat quarterback before transitioning to tight end at Penn State. His development accelerated rapidly, going from just 10 catches as a sophomore to becoming a semifinalist for both the Mackey Award and Walter Camp Player of the Year as a senior.

The first-team All-American established himself as college football's premier hybrid weapon in 2024, terrorizing defenses from multiple alignments while adding six rushing touchdowns and even a passing score. His 26-game reception streak and consistent production of explosive plays (20 catches of 20+ yards) demonstrate the weekly mismatch he created for opposing coordinators.

Benjamin Morrison CB Notre Dame
Born March 11, 2004, in Phoenix, Arizona, Benjamin Morrison comes from a family of elite athletes, with all four siblings competing at the Division I level. The 6'0", 190-pound corner walked into South Bend as a four-star recruit and immediately showed why Fighting Irish fans would come to love him. Morrison's freshman campaign was nothing short of spectacular, snagging six interceptions including a momentum-shifting pick-six against Clemson that displayed his game-breaking ability. His nine career interceptions rank second among Irish defenders since 1996, establishing him as one of college football's premier ballhawks.

Morrison's sophomore season solidified his status as an elite corner, earning him a Thorpe Award semifinalist nod while leading the team with 10 pass breakups. His trajectory pointed toward an even more dominant junior year before a hip injury in Week 7 against Stanford cut his 2024 season short. Prior to the injury, Morrison was living up to his preseason All-American billing, showing the same sticky coverage skills and playmaking ability that made him a freshman sensation.

The Notre Dame standout's rise from highly-touted recruit to defensive cornerstone mirrors his father Darryl's path to the NFL. While his 2024 campaign was abbreviated by injury, Morrison's body of work across three seasons in South Bend, including 26 starts, showcases a corner who's been battle-tested against elite competition.

Donovan Jackson OT OSU
The journey from five-star Texas high school prodigy to Ohio State national champion perfectly encapsulates Donovan Jackson's meteoric rise. After dominating the prep ranks at Episcopal High School, where he captured the Southwest Preparatory Conference 4A title, Jackson arrived in Columbus as the nation's top-ranked guard prospect in 2021. His trajectory since then has been nothing short of remarkable.

Jackson's collegiate career began with spot duty as a freshman before he seized the starting left guard role in 2022, anchoring an offensive line that finished sixth nationally in tackles for loss allowed. His junior campaign saw him earn First-Team All-Big Ten honors while helping power an offense that averaged nearly 500 yards per game. But it was his senior season that truly showcased his versatility – when injuries struck the offensive line, Jackson seamlessly slid out to left tackle, maintaining elite play against college football's top pass rushers during Ohio State's championship run.

By the time his Buckeyes career concluded, Jackson had accumulated over 2,500 snaps, earned three First-Team All-Big Ten selections, and garnered All-American recognition from multiple publications. His academic achievements, including Distinguished Scholar honors, demonstrated the same dedication off the field that made him such a force between the white lines.

Jaylon Noel WR Iowa State
Jaylin Noel came from Kansas City's Park Hill High School as an under-the-radar three-star recruit who blossomed into one of the Big 12's most electric playmakers during his time at Iowa State. After choosing the Cyclones over Nebraska, Wisconsin, and his home-state schools, Noel made an immediate impact as a freshman in 2021, hauling in 39 receptions while establishing himself as a dangerous return specialist, averaging an impressive 26.0 yards per kickoff return – the eighth-best single-season mark in school history.

The wideout's production climbed steadily each season, culminating in a spectacular 2024 campaign where he racked up 80 catches for 1,194 yards and eight touchdowns. His senior year cemented his place in Cyclone history, finishing second all-time at Iowa State with 245 career receptions and fourth with 2,855 receiving yards and 18 touchdown catches. A two-time captain who earned First Team All-Big 12 honors as a return specialist in 2024, Noel showcased his big-play ability with seven career touchdowns of 50+ yards – equaling the most by any Cyclone since 1971.

What truly separated Noel was his remarkable consistency and versatility. He closed his collegiate career with a reception in 46 consecutive games – the second-longest streak in school history – while making significant contributions in the return game throughout. His 2023 season highlighted his explosive capabilities as he became the first FBS player since 2014 to record four 50+ yard receptions, two 50+ yard kick returns and two 30+ yard punt returns in a single campaign. His development from complementary piece to featured weapon culminated in a Senior Bowl invitation following his stellar senior season.

Emory Jones Jr LSU OT
Emery Jones Jr. hails from Baton Rouge and attended Catholic High School, where he excelled in both football and basketball. At Catholic High, he was a cornerstone of a dominant offense, leading his team to back-to-back Division I state titles in 2020 and 2021. His high school accolades include twice being named to the 5A first team All-State and first team all-district.

Since joining LSU, Jones has been a key player on the offensive line, starting every game since his true freshman year in 2022. He has earned numerous accolades, including True Freshman All-America (2022), Freshman All-SEC (2022), Second-Team All-SEC (2023), and SEC Offensive Lineman of the Week (2023). Jones played a crucial role in LSU's offensive success, helping the team average 39.8 points and 496.6 total yards per game over his two seasons. He was also instrumental in Jayden Daniels winning the Heisman Trophy and setting the SEC record for total offense per game.

In 2023, Jones started 12 games at right tackle, playing a total of 708 snaps. He helped LSU's offensive line become a finalist for the Joe Moore Offensive Line of the Year Award. His performance in games like the comeback win over Missouri and the victory against Florida showcased his ability to dominate at the highest level of college football.

Dorian Strong Virginia Tech CB
Born March 14, 2002, Dorian Strong emerged from Dr. Henry Wise High School in Upper Marlboro, Maryland as a versatile two-way player who flashed playmaking ability on both sides of the ball. The 6'0", 179-pound cornerback arrived at Virginia Tech as a three-star recruit across all major recruiting services, but quickly outplayed those modest rankings. Strong wasted no time making an impact in Blacksburg, seeing action in all 11 games during the pandemic-shortened 2020 season while earning five starts as a true freshman – a testament to his natural instincts and technical foundation.

Strong's trajectory continued upward as he developed into a cornerstone of Virginia Tech's secondary over the next three seasons. His sophomore campaign saw him start 10 games and register his first career interception against Boston College, while also showcasing his big-play ability by returning a blocked extra point 95 yards for two points against Syracuse. Despite missing seven games due to injury in 2022, Strong bounced back with a stellar 2023 season that established him as one of the ACC's premier cover corners, earning Third Team All-ACC and Second Team All-American honors from Action Network.

What separates Strong from other cornerback prospects is his remarkable efficiency in coverage during his final season. As just the second FBS cornerback since 2014 with 300+ coverage snaps who surrendered fewer than 10 receptions and less than 100 yards receiving in a season, Strong's statistical dominance speaks volumes about his blanket coverage ability. He capped his collegiate career with another solid season in 2024, recording 32 tackles, 2 interceptions, 8 pass breakups, and a forced fumble across 12 games – finishing with 44 career starts and establishing himself as a legitimate NFL prospect.

Clay Webb Jacksonville State OT
Clay Webb, a Jacksonville State standout, has emerged as a formidable interior offensive lineman. The Oxford, Alabama native began his collegiate career at the University of Georgia before transferring to Jacksonville State, where he flourished. Webb's journey from highly-touted recruit to FCS All-American showcases his resilience and development.

At Jacksonville State, Webb anchored the offensive line, starting every game but one at left guard in 2023. His impact was immediate and significant, helping the Gamecocks achieve the fifth-best rushing offense in FBS during the regular season. Webb's presence was instrumental in the team's consistent ground game, averaging 232.2 yards per game and setting a CUSA record with 522 rushing yards against LA Tech.

Webb's accolades speak volumes about his on-field performance. He was named a First Team All-American by College Football Network and earned the prestigious FBS Offensive Guard of the Year award. His dominance was further recognized with a Second Team All-CUSA selection, cementing his status as one of the top offensive linemen in the country.

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I wish these PFF image could be made bigger

Originally Posted by: beast 


I tried copying and pasting to word and powerpoint and repasting....to no avail

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2 months ago

I tried copying and pasting to word and powerpoint and repasting....to no avail

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



Out of curiosity I tried MS Paint and it worked like a charm
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Edit: Well, for beast, I guess use Paint and resize?

Edit #2: Followed my own advice to beast and viola!
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Out of curiosity I tried MS Paint and it worked like a charm
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Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 

Meh....no significant improvement.

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2 months ago

Meh....no significant improvement.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



For posting here, no; but for just reading it yes.

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
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For posting here, no; but for just reading it yes.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


But I have it saved, so I don't need to read it...

I was posting it to share with others, and hoping I wouldn't have to write the entire thing out.
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I tried copying and pasting to word and powerpoint and repasting....to no avail

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



This is an issue with the Forum software. The images should be something you can click on, and they expand. It's broke.

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