2024 Trade Deadline· Page 2

beast
Select Member

6 months ago

Not nessarily wanting this, but just throwing the idea out there.

Since the Browns seem to be sellers in the trade market and the Lions lost DE Aidan Hutchinson for the season, there have been fans rumors of the possibility of DE Za'Darius Smith going from the Browns to the Lions.

When asked about it, Za'Darius said he had not heard about the rumors, but that it's all upstairs decisions, not his and he rather the media ask them about it, instead of him. Then Za'Darius seemingly pointed out (I'm not sure if seriously or jokingly) that if traded to the Lions, he'd get to play against his former teams Packers and Lions, and that would feel good to him.

All this to finally suggest, with fans complaining that the Edge Rushers aren't getting the job done enough (I believe partly because the coaches/system is asking them to contain more and less the DTs be the free rushers more)...

But what about the idea of bringing Za'Darius back to the Pack?

Not sure it's a good idea (probably depends on cost and contract), but just thought it was interesting enough to mention, and get reactions.

wpr
Preferred Member

6 months ago

#12

Not nessarily wanting this, but just throwing the idea out there.

Since the Browns seem to be sellers in the trade market and the Lions lost DE Aidan Hutchinson for the season, there have been fans rumors of the possibility of DE Za'Darius Smith going from the Browns to the Lions.

When asked about it, Za'Darius said he had not heard about the rumors, but that it's all upstairs decisions, not his and he rather the media ask them about it, instead of him. Then Za'Darius seemingly pointed out (I'm not sure if seriously or jokingly) that if traded to the Lions, he'd get to play against his former teams Packers and Lions, and that would feel good to him.

All this to finally suggest, with fans complaining that the Edge Rushers aren't getting the job done enough (I believe partly because the coaches/system is asking them to contain more and less the DTs be the free rushers more)...

But what about the idea of bringing Za'Darius back to the Pack?

Not sure it's a good idea (probably depends on cost and contract), but just thought it was interesting enough to mention, and get reactions.

Originally Posted by: beast

I assume he means the Packers and Vikings.

beast
Select Member

6 months ago

#13

I assume he means the Packers and Vikings.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Yes, that was an error on my part.

He was talking about playing against his former teams in Packers and Vikings (not Lions), yes, that is correct.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

6 months ago

#14

Originally Posted by: beast

Z could be helpful to the pass rush but after the way his departure occurred I don't think it would go well. On top of that, a few of the younger guys (Gary, Jaire, Love etc) are now the old men on the team. Would Z really fall in line and take a back seat to them?

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

wpr
Preferred Member

6 months ago

#15

Yes, that was an error on my part.

He was talking about playing against his former teams in Packers and Vikings (not Lions), yes, that is correct.

Originally Posted by: beast

Ah. I thought it was from the article not your comment.

Martha Careful
Member

6 months ago

#16

But what about the idea of bringing Za'Darius back to the Pack?

Not sure it's a good idea (probably depends on cost and contract), but just thought it was interesting enough to mention, and get reactions.

Originally Posted by: beast

no thanks.
Most of the places, including here, he has been is that he can be a clubhouse distraction. We're in the middle of installing a new defense and coming up to speed...
I just don't think it's a good fit

Go Packers!!!!

beast
Select Member

6 months ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

Supposedly he wasn't happy that no one was coming to talk with him, while he was injured. Personally, if I was in that position, I think I might be unhappy about that too.

I would say Preston Smith is the old man, over Gary.

I guess it depends on what those phases mean, as I would hope players don't purposely take a back seat... keep pushing to be the man!

But do it professionally...

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful

I guess you have heard things that I either I didn't hear, or I don't remember.

I know he felt disrespected in that he wasn't voted captain again, and that felt that no one came to him to talk to him while he was injured.

And had a contract dispute with the Vikings, whom I believe were asking most of their players to take a pay cut and Smith certainly wasn't the only Vikings player whom had an issue with that. So I'm not sure if I count this, as what human would be happy with taking a pay cut for the same amount of work?

I don't currently remember anything else from the Vikings, Ravens or Browns.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

6 months ago

#18

Originally Posted by: beast

I used the wrong terminology when I said old man. What I meant was Gary, Jaire and Love were young guys behind vets like Za'Darius when he came in. Now they're the cornerstone pieces with huge contracts and the leaders of the team. If Za'Darius were to be brought back, would he fall in line behind them? Za'Darius seems to take things personally for reasons that are legitimate or feigned (I was unaware of no one communicating with him during his injury). When spoken to this week on the idea of being traded to the Lions, Za'Darius highlighted the fact that he would get an opportunity to square off vs Green Bay and Minnesota twice a year. I just have a hard time seeing him falling in line behind the younger guys that are the core of Green Bay.

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

5 months ago

#19

Packers are on BYE this week and Tuesday is trade deadline. I think this is the best time to add someone. There's no game to prepare for on Sunday so the new player could come in, learn the system while coaches dish out a role for the new player so we can destroy the Bears November 17th.

beast
Select Member

5 months ago

#20

I don't have a good idea what the correct trade back value would be, but I was thinking if C Myers is seriously hurt (or maybe even if he isn't), the Packers might look into trading for

Jaguars C Mitch Morse

Originally Posted by: beast

I mentioned Center before, especially if Myers is injured.

Panthers have OL Brady Christensen, whom was drafted to play OT, but didn't work out there. Apparently he was their backup Center this year and based on PFF numbers he's been playing pretty well.

Not as good as Myers in pass protection, but also not far behind. And a hell lot better in run blocking, where Myers is dead last in the NFL (and it's not that close neither) while Christensen is 9th best.

Christensen started at LG in 2022, but has been a backup in 2023 and 2024 until injuries hit, and he's in the last year of his deal, so they might be willing to trade him, especially since the team seems to be sellers right now.

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beast (6h) : What is he supposed to say? He doesn't want players currently on the team?

Martha Careful (11h) : meh

Zero2Cool (15h) : Sounds like Walker and Wyatt will be with Packers for beyond 2026

Zero2Cool (15h) : It's so awesome.

Zero2Cool (15h) : new site fan shout post fast

wpr (18h) : Slow posting in Fan shout.

wpr (18h) : Only 4

Zero2Cool (21h) : If only we had a topic to read about and discuss it. That's something new website must have!!!

dfosterf (21h) : Justice Musqueda over at Acme Packing put up an excellent synopsis of the Packers 1st round options this am

wpr (19-Apr) : 5 days

beast (18-Apr) : 6 days

wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.

dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move

dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.

dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : I don't recall that he did which is why I asked.

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