RaiderPride
15 years ago

I doubt it will happen. The game time won't line up right.
NFL likes to have the game run in the Sunday early evening prime time slot. About 5:30-9 here in the Central Time Zone.
6:30-10 in the east and
3:30-7 in the west.

In order to get the same viewing time for a game in London they would have to kickoff at 11:30 PM London time. If the game started earlier say 7 pm London time it would be 11 AM in Los Angles which would defeat the purpose of having the larger night time audience.

"wpr" wrote:



I was thinking the same thing. How could they get a crowd in London on Sunday Night at 11:30 PM.

Many people have been asking for a Saturday Night Superbowl, so there is no work the next morning... And we all can party all night. Perhaps this is in the plans.

Do a midnight madness thing in London on Saturday night... 4 PM on the West Coast, 7PM on the East Coast.

The players biological clocks would be a fricken mess though.
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Yerko
15 years ago
Add four teams coming from London. 36 teams. 2 NFC and 2 AFC teams. If one of those teams makes it that far. Let it mesh for about 5 years and then decide to have the Super Bowl out there.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I wonder what European cities could (hypothetically) sustain a viable NFL franchise? Considering NFL Europa folded within a few years, I am hardpressed to believe an actual franchise could make it. But I'm interested in hearing your guys' opinions.
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Yerko
15 years ago

I wonder what European cities could (hypothetically) sustain a viable NFL franchise? Considering NFL Europa folded within a few years, I am hardpressed to believe an actual franchise could make it. But I'm interested in hearing your guys' opinions.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I don't know if you saw my post above yours but adding onto your post I think this might be a pretty good/cool idea. Obviously if it went through you would want to hit the major cities. Only problem is soccer is huge over there.
But, someone said holding a regular season game there was a good turn out correct? NFL Europe tanked but NFL Europe also wasn't just in the UK and did not hold top tier players on the team.
I would have the four teams placed in:
1. London
2. Birmingham
3. Glasgow or Manchester (big soccer city right?)
4. Liverpool
Unfortunately, I do not know how living is in those areas but they are major cities in the UK and I assume they thrive like our major cities.

Now if this all worked out, I would not have an issue holding the SuperBowl in London. I would also not have an issue with having the SuperBowl on Saturday nights because c'mon....work does interfere with holding it on Sundays and it is always a pain in the ass to get up Monday after a SuperBowl party :icon_smile:
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

I wonder what European cities could (hypothetically) sustain a viable NFL franchise? Considering NFL Europa folded within a few years, I am hardpressed to believe an actual franchise could make it. But I'm interested in hearing your guys' opinions.

"AKamp74" wrote:



I don't know if you saw my post above yours but adding onto your post I think this might be a pretty good/cool idea. Obviously if it went through you would want to hit the major cities. Only problem is soccer is huge over there.
But, someone said holding a regular season game there was a good turn out correct? NFL Europe tanked but NFL Europe also wasn't just in the UK and did not hold top tier players on the team.
I would have the four teams placed in:
1. London
2. Birmingham
3. Glasgow or Manchester (big soccer city right?)
4. Liverpool
Unfortunately, I do not know how living is in those areas but they are major cities in the UK and I assume they thrive like our major cities.

Now if this all worked out, I would not have an issue holding the SuperBowl in London. I would also not have an issue with having the SuperBowl on Saturday nights because c'mon....work does interfere with holding it on Sundays and it is always a pain in the ass to get up Monday after a SuperBowl party :icon_smile:

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



They did have a franchise in the NFL Europe earlier on though. And they had to fold, leaving 4 German and 1 Dutch team as the only one collecting enough revenue to stay in business.

I think it'd be alot different if we'd actually get the big names here. Hence the turn up at a yearly NFL game versus the ones for NFL Europe. I think you could put a franchise in London, Amsterdam, Berlin and Barcelona and, as long as they would have decently competitive teams, they would get enough revenue to stay alive. Big thing is, the first period they'll most likely be cupcake teams and that's not a great way to get things going.

Also, I think that alot of Americans might be slightly sceptical about this. But that more out of prejudice than anything else. It was the case over at another forum where you couldn't openly tell you where European without being told to go play Soccer.

Anyway, I'm hapy this way. Maybe they should plan 2 overseas games though. With Germany and The Netherlands holding the last NFL Europe franchises, it's obviously somewhat popular here aswell. Let another game be played in Europe somewhere in Germany. As much as I dislike them, I'd go there to see that for sure.
Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Rock, European teams would have access to the same talent pool as the American teams. When they entered the league, the NFL would hold an expansion draft just for them, in which they would get first priority on what picks they wanted. If I'm not mistaken, they would also automatically be placed at the top of each round in the regular draft, as well as have ample resources to sign available free agents. Both the Jaguars and the Panthers made it to their respective conference championships in their second seasons! So while the first season would almost certainly be disastrous for any European teams, there wouldn't necessarily be a long wait for success. Of course, they could be like the Houston Texans and never get beyond 8-8 in their first 5 years. You never know.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
What if the soccer championship with Manchester United was held in the US. I would guess that a lot of Europeans would be pissed. Even though the event would sell huge in the US because it is a rare occurrence. If the NFL wants to add 1 regular season game and move that week to Europe, OK. Not the Super Bowl. It is not just taking the game away. It is taking 2 weeks of heavy tourist income away from some city that can really use it.

It is called National, not international Football.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

Rock, European teams would have access to the same talent pool as the American teams. When they entered the league, the NFL would hold an expansion draft just for them, in which they would get first priority on what picks they wanted. If I'm not mistaken, they would also automatically be placed at the top of each round in the regular draft, as well as have ample resources to sign available free agents. Both the Jaguars and the Panthers made it to their respective conference championships in their second seasons! So while the first season would almost certainly be disastrous for any European teams, there wouldn't necessarily be a long wait for success. Of course, they could be like the Houston Texans and never get beyond 8-8 in their first 5 years. You never know.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



The expansion draft is nothing more than getting some left-overs though. I mean, I could imagine that we would put guys like Peprah, Swain and maybe Tauscher on there if we resign him.

The first four overall picks would certainly help and I think that this is a position where you have to be very lucky to get your team off the ground in a place like Europe. Where the Jaguars got Tony Boselli to anchor that line for quite some time, the Texans got David Carr and still haven't done anything.

Like you said, they could pan out very good aswell, but you ought to be extremely lucky or extremely good at spotting hidden talent. The Jaguars panned out really well, the Panthers did go to the NFC championship but didn't have another winning season untill their 2003 SB run, the Texans are still a pretty crappy team and the Browns haven't done a whole lot either.
dhazer
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15 years ago
I say before they move the Super Bowl over seas why don't they just rotate it between the teams that are in the NFL. Why can't we have a Super Bowl in Green Bay. I heard it said its because of the weather. Well what about the Colts vs Bears Super Bowl and the pouring rain. I for one would love to see a Super Bowl in a snow storm 🙂
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
I'm guessing they would have to drastically lower ticket prices for a Super Bowl at Lambeau Field because it wouldn't hold the same tourist appeal as an LA or a Miami or a New Orleans. Rich businessmen with cash to toss around won't be able to look forward to bikini-clad women on the beaches. The NFL prefers to maximize revenue. Plus not everyone wants to freeze their assess off on bleacher stands.

I agree, though. I think a Super Bowl in the driving snow of Green Bay would be awesome to watch. But imagine the fan revolt that might ensue if weather played a role in the outcome of the game! 😉
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Zero2Cool (2h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (2h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (2h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (2h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (2h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
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beast (4h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (4h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (4h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (4h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (4h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (5h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (5h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (8h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (8h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (8h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (8h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
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Zero2Cool (9h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (9h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
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Zero2Cool (9h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (9h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
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