nerdmann
a year ago
Might be ready to return during TC. 


Stokes’ recovery is right on track, the source said, and the Packers are taking a cautious approach with a talented player. If all goes well, he could make his training camp debut in a couple weeks.


“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
wpr
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a year ago
I look forward to seeing him back on the field. 
UserPostedImage
11 months ago
From a Packers.com article today

Here's the latest:
....
The health reports on receiver Christian Watson and cornerback Eric Stokes are positive as well.
....(MLF commented that Watson "looked great") Same with Stokes, who has "been full-go."

All the good news comes with the caveat that offseason workouts are non-contact and non-competitive, with no players lining up across from one another until OTAs in late May, and even those will be non-padded practices.

But Gutekunst gave a strong vote of confidence in particular to the cornerback room with a healthy Stokes,


I think Stokes' health was a key factor in them not taking a corner.
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beast
11 months ago

From a Packers.com article today

I think Stokes' health was a key factor in them not taking a corner.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



I think it had to do more with scheme changes, asking the DL mainly focus on penetrating and forcing that ball to come out of the pocket ASAP will help the CBs, as long as they can tackle and I think this helps guys like Ballentine who can tackle.

And using a lot more blitzes.

So higher risk, but it takes pressure off the coverage, at least assuming we can get home and pressure effects the QB.
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Zero2Cool
11 months ago

I think it had to do more with scheme changes, asking the DL mainly focus on penetrating and forcing that ball to come out of the pocket ASAP will help the CBs, as long as they can tackle and I think this helps guys like Ballentine who can tackle.

And using a lot more blitzes.

So higher risk, but it takes pressure off the coverage, at least assuming we can get home and pressure effects the QB.

Originally Posted by: beast 


I get to beat my dead horse again!

Better pass rush means you don't need superstars in secondary! This is the way!!

I am a believer in it starts up front. I'd rather a dominant pass rush over dominant secondary. I think a dominant pass rush can also stymy rushing attacks and there's no secondary that can cover consistently for 5 seconds or more.
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dfosterf
11 months ago

I get to beat my dead horse again!

Better pass rush means you don't need superstars in secondary! This is the way!!

I am a believer in it starts up front. I'd rather a dominant pass rush over dominant secondary. I think a dominant pass rush can also stymy rushing attacks and there's no secondary that can cover consistently for 5 seconds or more.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


More "Cardiac Pack" would be my prediction. This division and so many of the teams we are going to play are loaded with receiving talent. Speaking of our division, everyone is loading up at cornerback as well. Part of that is us, part of it is...well...all of the teams in our division. Shits kinda scary, in general, imo

Zero2Cool
11 months ago

More "Cardiac Pack" would be my prediction. This division and so many of the teams we are going to play are loaded with receiving talent. Speaking of our division, everyone is loading up at cornerback as well. Part of that is us, part of it is...well...all of the teams in our division. Shits kinda scary, in general, imo

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



What would be cardiac pack?
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dfosterf
11 months ago
It is a nickname the Packers aquired many years ago. The term implies that the Packers would scare you week in and week out with games that were just scary to watch to the point of being hard on your heart to watch. Some say from the '89 Packers team, my recollection is far earlier. Some teams have adopted the nickname in other sports and teams, but I would submit ours was the original. We have all lived it, it's just that maybe some of us didn't know a phrase about it had been coined. A "Baby boomer benefit" I would be more than pleased to relinquish.
Zero2Cool
11 months ago

It is a nickname the Packers aquired many years ago. The term implies that the Packers would scare you week in and week out with games that were just scary to watch to the point of being hard on your heart to watch. Some say from the '89 Packers team, my recollection is far earlier. Some teams have adopted the nickname in other sports and teams, but I would submit ours was the original. We have all lived it, it's just that maybe some of us didn't know a phrase about it had been coined. A "Baby boomer benefit" I would be more than pleased to relinquish.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Oh, I know the term. I'm just asking why you think it'll be cardiac pack. What is driving that belief or thought?
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dfosterf
11 months ago
I want you to be right about the power of the pressure on the qb. I want this scheme change and the personnel decisions to work. I want them to "get home" on that qb. The cardiac pack comes in when they are trying, even getting there when some wr streaked through, or didn't get there and the qb hits his receiver, or misses and we got lucky, etc. etc. etc.

My off season would be better if we had just one more CB I felt really good about.

One more is not greedy, imo
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