Martha Careful
a year ago
Draft Pick ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,...................................... Martha's Thoughts
Rd 1: No. 25- Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona -- Great Pick, Great Feet, Fills a Need and a good guy and leader
Rd 2: No. 45-Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M -- Best LB in the draft and we need them but dumb
Rd 2: No. 58- Javon Bullard, S, Georgia -- Best S in the draft and we need them
Rd 3: No. 88-MarShawn Lloyd, RB, USC -- I love this pick, a slasher and great receiver
Rd 3: No. 91 (from BUF)-Ty’Ron Hopper, LB, Missouri -- Head Scratcher, a waste IMO, and dumb
Rd 4: No. 111 (from NYJ)-Evan Williams, S, Oregon -- I like the pick…we need S's
Rd 5: No 163 (from BUF)-Jacob Monk, C, Duke -- Good Pick for IOL depth and a leader
Rd 5: No. 169-Kitan Oladapo, S, Oregon State -- More Safety depth
Rd 6: No. 202-Travis Glover, OT, Georgia State - Not a chance, a wasted pick
Rd 7: No. 245-Michael Pratt, QB, Tulane -- Like the pick as an emergency QB
Rd 7: No. 255--Kalen King, CB, Penn State -- Burnt like toast against quality recs. a Safety?

Overall
Overall, I would give it a B. Higher if we had gotten a true corner and hadn't wasted two pick. I think they must feel Stokes will be healthy and the Valentine will step up. I also think we may see a lot of 3 safety looks in our new defense.
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beast
a year ago
I wonder what the Vegas Odds are for Packers drafting a CB in Round 1 in 2025, one might consider it.
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earthquake
a year ago
"Best LB in the draft and we need them but dumb"

I'm not quite sure how to reconcile the "but dumb" part of this note. Best LB in the draft the mid-second, where good LBs usually go, when LB is a clear need. What's dumb about that? I assume you wanted a CB there instead?
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earthquake
a year ago
I found it interesting that they took three safeties. Two wasn't a surprise but the third seemed a little goofy. I wonder if they view one of them as more of a nickle? Or light LB? That would make sense except they took two LBs too.

About that - two LBs before day three was surprising as well. I guess in a 4-3 you need 3 LBs so it makes some sense, but I expect they'll play more of a 4-2-5 the majority of the time. So I only expected 1 in the first three rounds.

A little surprised that they didn't take a single edge or DL. I guess this answers the question of whether they think they have the right guys to play on the defensive line in the new system.

A few OL to the surprise of absolutely no one. No WRs or TEs as expected as well.

Overall I like the draft just fine.
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beast
a year ago

I found it interesting that they took three safeties. Two wasn't a surprise but the third seemed a little goofy. I wonder if they view one of them as more of a nickle? Or light LB? That would make sense except they took two LBs too.

About that - two LBs before day three was surprising as well. I guess in a 4-3 you need 3 LBs so it makes some sense, but I expect they'll play more of a 4-2-5 the majority of the time. So I only expected 1 in the first three rounds.

A little surprised that they didn't take a single edge or DL. I guess this answers the question of whether they think they have the right guys to play on the defensive line in the new system.

A few OL to the surprise of absolutely no one. No WRs or TEs as expected as well.

Overall I like the draft just fine.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



I was racking my brain trying to figure out why these players/positions and I think I figured it out, and if I'm correct it's all due to scheme.

I think the Packers lacked the players and depth to fit the scheme, and the scheme that draft makes the most sense to me is Tony Dungy schemes cover 2 or Tampa 2.

The DL is all about penetration, forcing them to get the ball out of the pocket. They also blitz a lot to help, including run blitzes.

The coverage is off zone, watching and reading the offense knowing they'll have to get the ball out quickly and their job is to read it, and rally to the ball and either make a play on the ball or make a quick tackle.

It's all about speed and attacking and the guys we got fit that perfectly.

These players don't make sense in a non-attcking system.

And I'm not 100% sure, but I believe those schemes played more 4-3 base than other schemes as they have athletic 4-3 OLBs which can match up better on WRs than other as schemes. So yes, we might be seeing Walker or one of the rookie LBers match up on a WR from time to time.

Three Safeties is for multiple reasons... including other then the one FA, we don't have any Safeties we can trust. S Bullard's best spot might be the nickel slot CB role, but he can also play FS, and probably SS. The other two Safeties are probably best at SS.

Also this years changes on STs has teams thinking speed will matter less on Kickoffs and they can use more Safety and athletic LBers on STs, just what we drafted.

And if those S talked about above can't match up with the WRs, then it's time for those SS to play some coverage LB role.

Which again, all that will include some blitzing.


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Martha Careful
a year ago

"Best LB in the draft and we need them but dumb"

I'm not quite sure how to reconcile the "but dumb" part of this note. Best LB in the draft the mid-second, where good LBs usually go, when LB is a clear need. What's dumb about that? I assume you wanted a CB there instead?

Originally Posted by: earthquake 

Sorry, in a desire for brevity, I was unclear. I should have said "the gentleman drafted is not bright, low Wonderlic and scouts think he is not a defensive signal caller." Dumb applied to the gentleman selected, not the pick.
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bboystyle
a year ago

I found it interesting that they took three safeties. Two wasn't a surprise but the third seemed a little goofy. I wonder if they view one of them as more of a nickle? Or light LB? That would make sense except they took two LBs too.

About that - two LBs before day three was surprising as well. I guess in a 4-3 you need 3 LBs so it makes some sense, but I expect they'll play more of a 4-2-5 the majority of the time. So I only expected 1 in the first three rounds.

A little surprised that they didn't take a single edge or DL. I guess this answers the question of whether they think they have the right guys to play on the defensive line in the new system.

A few OL to the surprise of absolutely no one. No WRs or TEs as expected as well.

Overall I like the draft just fine.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



I was more curious as to why we took two RBs when we have jacobs, dillion and wilson....
beast
a year ago

I was more curious as to why we took two RBs when we have jacobs, dillion and wilson....

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


Remind me whom was the 2nd RB that we took?


Also to my earlier comments, I guess it's most likely we're running the 49ers 4-3 Cover 3 that they took from the Seahawks when Hafley was last in the NFL defenses.
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bboystyle
a year ago

Remind me whom was the 2nd RB that we took?


Also to my earlier comments, I guess it's most likely we're running the 49ers 4-3 Cover 3 that they took from the Seahawks when Hafley was last in the NFL defenses.

Originally Posted by: beast 


Picked up an undrafted RB for no real reason.
beast
a year ago

Picked up an undrafted RB for no real reason.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 


Huh? ALL 32 teams pick up camp bodies for depth because they need camp bodies as top many injuries happen already, even more will happen if you force guys to take more snaps.

I don't know why anyone would be complaining about camp bodies, it's not like they'll have a chance to be on the 53 man roster (unless they're good enough).
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