dfosterf
a year ago
We got shoved towards the edge of the positional cliff talent-wise. The last of the acceptables imo for the first round. For that, I am pleased that Gute hung tough and did not crack under what must have been great pressure to move up. The next cliff looming is linebacker, and we are very close to the edge already going into tonight.
Unfortunate, but real. Probably unpopular.
Edggerrin Cooper, and a bunch of JAGS. That is about it in this draft. Everybody wants their guy, but LB is part of the weak link theory of relative positional value. It kind of sucks, but if Edgerrin Cooper is there at 41, we really should take him. My pedigree for this opinion is that I ran well over a hundred mocks going in to this draft and really reviewed what I wound up with. It is appropo to place this post here because Gute did what he had to do in the first round to navigate the channel in the dangerous rocks and shoals moving forward. Yes, I see Cooper Dejean if anyone is wondering about that.
a year ago
1. senior bowl practice footage....nice feet.


https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2024-04-24/sam-farmer-final-2024-nfl-mock-draft-quarterbacks-1-2-3-trade 

3. David Bakhtiari 's RAS was 6.72....Morgan 9.24

4. From Forbes

In Morgan, Green Bay landed an extremely versatile player who will be given every chance to be the Packers’ left tackle of tomorrow. Morgan (6-5, 311) has terrific feet, outstanding athleticism and ran the 40-yard dash in 5.04 seconds at the NFL Combine....
Since 2022, Morgan has allowed just three sacks in 880 pass-blocking snaps. And of 96 FBS-level tackles in this draft class who played at least 650 offensive snaps, he ranked 14th in pass-blocking efficiency by Pro Football Focus..



https://twitter.com/i/status/1783697450991006098 

6. Against a UCLA defense that featured Laiatu Latu, a first-team All-American who led the nation in tackles for losses per game and was the first defensive player selected on Thursday, Morgan allowed one pressure in 39 pass-protecting snaps, according to PFF. A team captain, Morgan was named first-team all-conference.

7. Sorry, I can't find it, but IIRC Gutey said they had contemplating trading up, but the guys they wanted did not fall far enough. I am hypothesizing that it was either Fashanu or Fuaga they were looking at as it would have been easy to get ahead of Pittsburgh for Fautanu

Having the benefit of a good night's sleep, I am happy with the pick.

Go Packers!!!!
Dulak
a year ago
Going to play the devils advocate ...

ACL surgery already ... doesnt this forbode to having more problems in the future?

I remember when Al Harris had his done he worked hard to come back but the pack didnt want him anymore.
Zero2Cool
a year ago

Going to play the devils advocate ...

ACL surgery already ... doesnt this forbode to having more problems in the future?

I remember when Al Harris had his done he worked hard to come back but the pack didnt want him anymore.

Originally Posted by: Dulak 


Aaron Rodgers had ACL during his college days. If that makes ya feel any better.
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Nonstopdrivel
a year ago

25. Green Bay Packers: Jordan Morgan, OT/G, Arizona - Grade: B- 
Some depth and versatility along the offensive line could go a long way for Green Bay, especially with Jordan Love's continued ascension and an impressive collection of young pass catchers in the fold. Morgan can hang at either guard or tackle, giving the Packers plenty of flexibility for its front. His hand usage and core strength could prove problematic, however, particularly as he first adapts to squaring off against more athletic and savvy pass rushers.


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Nonstopdrivel
a year ago

25. Green Bay Packers: Jordan Morgan, OT/G, Arizona - Grade: B- 
Some depth and versatility along the offensive line could go a long way for Green Bay, especially with Jordan Love's continued ascension and an impressive collection of young pass catchers in the fold. Morgan can hang at either guard or tackle, giving the Packers plenty of flexibility for its front. His hand usage and core strength could prove problematic, however, particularly as he first adapts to squaring off against more athletic and savvy pass rushers.


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Mucky Tundra
a year ago

I don't think so, I don't believe teams are scouting other teams rosters and picks that closely because that also would depends on how a team sees their own needs and you'd have to scout the history of the 31 other teams, I don't think they go down that rabbit hole.


I assume they honestly just don't know where he's going to play yet. LT or OG, they just know he's an elite pass blocker and they'll let the coaches figure it out.

I think the best way to not tip your hand would of been to label him what he played in college, which was always LT. The fact that they're opening it to OL is more telling than keeping it the same.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Regarding other teams keeping tabs on others, I just assumed it was something dumped on some poor unpaid/underpaid intern types. If you find a nugget, great! If not oh well.
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Mucky Tundra
a year ago
The Dallas Cowboys were eyeing Packers' Jordan Morgan with 24th pick
 


According to The Fort Worth Star-Telegram’s Clarence Hill Jr., Jones, in a post-selection interview session, told the media that the following players were prospects that he “coveted” with the 24th overall pick: Arizona tackle Jordan Morgan, Oklahoma tackle Tyler Guyton, Missouri defensive lineman Darius Robinson and Duke offensive lineman Graham Barton.


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a year ago
I'm not sure...should I feel better or worse about the pick?

Go Packers!!!!
Mucky Tundra
a year ago

I'm not sure...should I feel better or worse about the pick?

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



Well for starters it explains why GB didn't trade out: Dallas was there lurking and Gute probably had wind of it.

Regarding Dallas and their ability to identify talent, off the top of my head I want to say they've been pretty consistent in finding guys on the oline in the higher rounds.
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