Titans Twitter wishes Packers good luck after signing Andre Dillard· Page 2

dfosterf
Veteran Member

10 months ago

I hope so....what are his contract terms?

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful

We don't know yet. Every dime over a league minimum non-guaranteed contract you are going to hear about it in a not nice way from this fan.

beast
Select Member

10 months ago

#12

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!! Oh my....this is really awful..

As Dillard illustrates, I content that RAS is overrated. "Ready, set, go, the do a pre-assigned task" is not football. Ready-set-react then do something predicated on what has happened is a much better measure. The body cannot quickly when the brain reacts slowly.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful

RAS just tells you how high your athletic potential is, and while the Packers seem to use something similar to it, that's for the more athletic positions, the Packers results clearly show they rely on it less for linemen and the more contact positions (even most of Gute's early TEs had a much lower RAS score, which confused me as they clearly weren't blockers either).

Also I think the bigger lesson is don't draft OL high in the draft that are from Air Raid offenses, the Air Raid offenses notoriously don't teach the OL NFL techniques... they have 3 run calls (left, straight, right) and their pass blocking is to back up and die slowly, giving zero changes of winning, it's just that you aren't allowing the defender to win either, and you're taking that tie every pass blocking snap.

And some of those plays, it simple looks like Dillard doesn't know the snap count, or simply is not running the same blocking call as his LG, and they have zero chance with not being on the same mental page.

As far as his contract, the only detail I've seen so far, is someone supposedly quoting Gute, saying it's a one year deal.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member Topic Starter

10 months ago

#13

I think folks are really over reacting to this signing. It's one of 90, not one of 53 on a 3 year guaranteed contract.

This is nothing more than a body. It's something the Packers have done routinely.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I thought the same thing as well when I saw the initial reaction online. "Oh he's just a camp body, he's low risk/high reward, they liked him before the 2019 draft" etc. I thought the same even as I read beasts first post in this thread...and then I watched the video in the embedded tweet.

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

dfosterf
Veteran Member

10 months ago

#14

I am hoping that they signed him to a Veteran Salary Benefit contract (VSB).
If we see a signing bonus of $167,500, that is what they did. A VSB pays a veteran with at least 4 years of service a set base of the league minimum for a veteran with only 2 years of service, and a set bonus of 167,500. In this case. 1,152,500 total. They are one year contracts. If cut, the team is out the 167,500. The rationale for VSB is that it incentivises teams to sign a vet player (probably) heading out of the league to like the CFL or retirement over a rookie or younger but possibly developing player. As an aside, we could also consider offering one to Bahk with whatever NLTBE incentives the team and his agent could mutually come up with. He would be eligible for practically anything. NLTBE is not likely to be earned. e.g- snaps played. It is strictly based on last years performance, so in Bahks case, he could have that incentive with a very low bar for approval by the league as a NLTBE vs. LTBE. NLTBE doesn't count against this year's cap. LTBE does. (Likely to be earned). If we are hit with a 2025 cap hit, it means he played. (Baby! The surgery worked this time!) Food for thought outside bitching about the new guy.

Martha Careful
Member

10 months ago

#15

Rob Demovsky reported:

On the day of the draft, we got some confirmation on that front. ESPN’s Rob Demovsky reported that Dillard did not receive a single dollar of guaranteed money, either in the form of a salary or a signing bonus. Essentially, Dillard must earn every dollar that he’s scheduled to make from his one-year deal. On top of that, if Dillard does make the 53-man roster his salary for this season will be just $1.125 million — the minimum for a veteran with his amount of experience.

Let the record show Zero2Cool was correct

Go Packers!!!!

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member Topic Starter

10 months ago

#16

Rob Demovsky reported:
Let the record show Zero2Cool was correct

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful

Never thought I'd hear that on a day that the Draft was occurring ! 😉

“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”

"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers

dfosterf
Veteran Member

10 months ago

#17

I'm proud of both Gute and Zero. They were both even cheaper than me with my hoped for VSB contract plan. Saved the 167,500 if cut, and a 27,500 net difference if he does make the team.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 months ago

#18

2018: Sign Tramon & House - Draft Jaire & Jackson 1st & 2nd round
2019: Sign Smith Bros, Amos, Turner - Draft Gary, Savage, Jenkins 1st & 2nd rounds.
2020: Sign Wagner - Draft 3 OL (Jordan Love year)

2021 - 2023: Cap hell - free agency wasn't a thing, still:

2021: Sign King, Sullivan, Douglas - Draft Stokes 1st round
2022: Sign Campbell & Reed - Draft Walker & Wyatt 1st round
2023: Largest FA contract was a long snapper who didn't make the initial 53 - Drafted 3 WR, 2 TE, 2 DL, 2 DB as their biggest needs.

2024: Biggest FA additions are McKinney (S), Jacobs (RB), and Dillard (OT). If we follow the patterns here I suspect Brian Gutekunst is looking to invest his 1st round pick at Safety or Offensive Line.

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Zero2Cool (7h) : Hobbs said Jaire reached out and congratulated him.

Martha Careful (20h) : ditto, I wish nothing but the best for AJ Diilan and Josh Myers. and yes dfosterf, you are correct

Mucky Tundra (21h) : Love AJ but it was time to move on. Also, gonna be interesting to see how he does behind Phillys oline

Mucky Tundra (21h) : Josh Myers to the Jets one a one year, 3.5 million dollar deal

dfosterf (22h) : Wish nothing but the best for AJ Dillon!

Zero2Cool (22h) : Eagles landed AJ Dillon

wpr (22h) : The Packers did not tender restricted free agent John FitzPatrick. The tight end played in nine games after signing with Green Bay

wpr (22h) : The Eagles are signing former Packers running back AJ Dillon, a league source confirms.

Zero2Cool (22h) : Might be waiting for the right place, or right cash, or both

dhazer (23h) : I can't believe Chubb is still a free agent why wouldnt someone take a chance on him he is a stud with stuff to prove

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : I wanna find it too

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : if they find it, i wanna know how !!

dfosterf (12-Mar) : According to the OTC cap figures, Miami has one minute to find 10.3 million in cap space lol

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : lol nice one

dfosterf (12-Mar) : MVS to the Seahawks. I know Martha is relieved, lol

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Pelissero: Cooper Kupp to be released by the Rams.

dfosterf (12-Mar) : OTC has increased Packers cap room to over 32 mil

Martha Careful (12-Mar) : RIP Junior Bridgeman. An excellent businessman and NBA er

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : It's better to have $17m to use on players who will be on the field. That's why trade/release is talked

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : post june is $7m cap hit with $17m saving

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : oops meant $10m cap hit

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : And pre june is $10m savings

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Can't make him play.

dhazer (12-Mar) : I am curious why the big need to release Jaire, we have 29 million cap space we arent spending and would only gain $6 million/ make him play

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Joey Bosa signed with Bills?

dfosterf (12-Mar) : What they are offering is a left over case of Leinies from the Chippewa Falls plant

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : 27, 59, 91, 129 gets you Jaire and our 3rd

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : they give us those five, or even first four, they can have Jaire.

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : 27, 59, 91, 129 and 136 are only ones worth having of theirs.

dfosterf (12-Mar) : What they don't have is cap space, at least presently at 5.6 mil

dfosterf (12-Mar) : Poor bastards only have 11

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Ravens ain't got crap for picks.

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Aaron Rodgers is choosing between Steelers and Giants. The Vikings are officially out on him, per RapSheet

dfosterf (12-Mar) : Current cap space 29.6 million.

dfosterf (12-Mar) : Hobbs 2025 cap hit just under 6 million. Banks 2025 cap hit just over 9 million

Mucky Tundra (12-Mar) : beast, this is news to me! Tell me more about these, "draft picks." They seem mighty mysterious! 😉

beast (12-Mar) : Yes, the Ravens have draft picks

dfosterf (12-Mar) : Good luck to him.

Zero2Cool (12-Mar) : Eric Stokes signs with Raiders

Martha Careful (11-Mar) : Tyler Linderbaum C

Mucky Tundra (11-Mar) : Cap space?

Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : Do Ravens have anything we'd even entertain to have?

Mucky Tundra (11-Mar) : I've seen trade ideas of Jaire going to the Ravens all offseason

beast (11-Mar) : A probably false rumor is suggesting CB Jaire Alexander is being traded to the Ravens, again probably false

beast (11-Mar) : Commanders might have a dominant offense the next 3 years at least

Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : San Francisco 49ers announced they have released DL Leonard Floyd.

Mucky Tundra (11-Mar) : Er getting traded twice like that

Mucky Tundra (11-Mar) : Huh, LT Laremy Tunsil traded from Houston to Washington. Never heard of a top OT getting traded in his career like that

Martha Careful (11-Mar) : Minnesota Vikings cornerback Byron Murphy Jr. is returning on a three-year, $66 million deal

Zero2Cool (11-Mar) : Damn

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