beast
8 months ago

Seeing these rankings makes me sad as it probably kills my Byron Murphy with the #25 pick dreams.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


Certainly less likely yes, but also he's short and doesn't have long lumps, which limits his versatility and could seriously hurt him in the minds of some.

Aaron Rodgers was supposed to go #1 overall, but fell to #24. So a short limbed DT projected to go #9 could go #30 (and I don't believe most places have Murphy in the top 16, or if they do, that's fairly new).

The draft needs haven't changed. The approach to the draft might have with the free agent signings. We just look at who's under contract in 2025 to know our needs by position. Teams that 'need' rookie players in April won't be playing in January.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I think with Campbell's release the needs have changed. Bakhtiari's too.

With the RB swap, the type of RB we need to be looking for has swapped...

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Zero2Cool
8 months ago

I think with Campbell's release the needs have changed. Bakhtiari's too.

With the RB swap, the type of RB we need to be looking for has swapped...

Originally Posted by: beast 


I suppose I believe those decisions were made many months ago so it doesn't impact the draft solely because it's "official", if that makes senses. I think OL was position they wanted to add to regardless. I read the draft is a bit high on that position. The Packers did OK with LT Walker so I think that made it easier to part from Bakhtiari. Plus, he's just not reliable and can't be depended on to start.

Campbell has been injured last two seasons and also unreliable. What's the saying? The best accountability is availability?

My biggest fear was the Packers seeing zero depth at Safety and using a Grade A selection on a Grade B prospect.
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8 months ago

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I think OL was position they wanted to add to regardless. I read the draft is a bit high on that position. The Packers did OK with LT Walker so I think that made it easier to part from Bakhtiari...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Gentlemen, let's not forget the fact that Walker was just OK. Much of the time he had tight ends helping and running backs chipping. Having to do so consistently limits what the offense can call vs. if we had an absolute stud out there.

In round 1, if things break where an excellent T is available, I would hope we would take one.


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Mucky Tundra
8 months ago

Certainly less likely yes, but also he's short and doesn't have long lumps, which limits his versatility and could seriously hurt him in the minds of some.

Aaron Rodgers was supposed to go #1 overall, but fell to #24. So a short limbed DT projected to go #9 could go #30 (and I don't believe most places have Murphy in the top 16, or if they do, that's fairly new).

Originally Posted by: beast 



I've been seeing Murphy go mostly in the late teens/early twenties in mocks and I dont think Gute would trade up for a dlineman (could see a trade up for a CB he likes). But if one Gute liked was there at #25...


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Zero2Cool
8 months ago
The Packers re-signing AJ Dillon might have something to say with how many RB we take in draft.
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beast
8 months ago

I've been seeing Murphy go mostly in the late teens/early twenties in mocks and I dont think Gute would trade up for a dlineman (could see a trade up for a CB he likes). But if one Gute liked was there at #25...

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


Well Gute sure does like trading 3rd or 4th round picks to move up in the late 1st round. That being said, I'm not sure he would for a DT right now.

Gute usually draft defensive positional cause in the 1st.

Position values used to be said to go like this.

Top values: QB, CB, Edge, OT
Second tier in the modern game: S, TE

All of Gute's 1st round picks have been amount those except the year they drafted ILB Walker and DT Wyatt.

And it needs to be noted, Gute attempted to trade up to the first round for WR Watson.

But outside of 2022, Gute has gone positional cause in the first round. And only offensive once.
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dhazer
8 months ago
I think the Packers still bring in a DE (Chase Young) or Clowney with free agency or don't count out Justin Simmons to lock up our safety position for years to come. Signing either of those 2 will impact the draft strategy.

If we sign Simmons I see us going tackle in the 1st.
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