Zero2Cool
a year ago
As we all know, the draft is for the future. And free agency is to plug immediate holes. We all understand that is the rule, err guideline.

I was worried the Packers would reach high for a Safety because we lack the numbers and talent Safety. Instead, they landed what most are saying is #1 Safety in Xavier McKinney who is just 24 years old! Think about that! The top Safety in the draft, Tyler Nubin is 22 years old. That's just incredible. And the tape I've been seeing via Tweeter, the dude can play! He's a helluva tackler.

That signing should alter the aggressiveness of the draft for Safety. They tend to draft best player available, but maybe they factor in lack of numbers in their "best" algorithm? Who knows. I think they can take best value on Day 2 at Safety and be solid.

The Packers went and landed RB Josh Jacobs. I'd rather have a healthy Aaron Jones, but we will NOT get into that argument right now. Also, this does NOT change my goal of drafting best RB on Day 2 and maybe another on Day 3.

What this does for the Packers though. It allows them to strike gold at OL in round one.

Book it! We're taking OL in Round One.

How do you think the recent free agent signings and what not have altered the Packers draft? Or has it altered it nothing at all?
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a year ago

As we all know, the draft is for the future. And free agency is to plug immediate holes. We all understand that is the rule, err guideline.

I was worried the Packers would reach high for a Safety because we lack the numbers and talent Safety. Instead, they landed what most are saying is #1 Safety in Xavier McKinney who is just 24 years old! Think about that! The top Safety in the draft, Tyler Nubin is 22 years old. That's just incredible. And the tape I've been seeing via Tweeter, the dude can play! He's a helluva tackler.

That signing should alter the aggressiveness of the draft for Safety. They tend to draft best player available, but maybe they factor in lack of numbers in their "best" algorithm? Who knows. I think they can take best value on Day 2 at Safety and be solid.

The Packers went and landed RB Josh Jacobs. I'd rather have a healthy Aaron Jones, but we will NOT get into that argument right now. Also, this does NOT change my goal of drafting best RB on Day 2 and maybe another on Day 3.

What this does for the Packers though. It allows them to strike gold at OL in round one.

Book it! We're taking OL in Round One.

How do you think the recent free agent signings and what not have altered the Packers draft? Or has it altered it nothing at all?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

if we find a free agent at middle linebacker I totally agree with you. But if we don’t, we might go that direction in the first round.

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Zero2Cool
a year ago

if we find a free agent at middle linebacker I totally agree with you. But if we don’t, we might go that direction in the first round.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


I've been seeing a lot of people say drafting off ball LB in round one is bad bad bad business. I don't know how true it is. Just something that seems to be a dang echo chamber.
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beast
a year ago

I've been seeing a lot of people say drafting off ball LB in round one is bad bad bad business. I don't know how true it is. Just something that seems to be a dang echo chamber.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I've seen a stat recently said only 4 of the last 22 LBers drafted in the first round have re-signed a second contract with the team that drafted them.

That's not saying they're bad, but the team that drafted them aren't paying to keep them around either.
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TheKanataThrilla
a year ago
What I really like about these two signings is that we don't need to reach for a Safety or RB. If Nubin is available when we pick, we grab him. If not may we wait and grab Bishop or one of the other Safeties a round later. Same with RB. Have a list of guys you like to fill the desired role and pick the one that is available where there is value. I do think this means that we are drafting OL who are better run blockers.

Beast mentioned LB. I am thinking we might look at Cooper in the second round if he is there. Not entirely sure what Hafley looks for in the middle, but Quay definitely could use some competition.
Zero2Cool
a year ago
We're at 25, right? Here's the top 32 prospects per PFF.
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Here's the top LB / EDGE per PFF.
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beast
a year ago

What I really like about these two signings is that we don't need to reach for a Safety or RB.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 


We signed a S and RB, but we also let two at each position go. So we need to grab another still.

It might be interesting.to try to figure 9ut draft needs after FA vs before.
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Mucky Tundra
a year ago

We signed a S and RB, but we also let two at each position go. So we need to grab another still.

It might be interesting.to try to figure 9ut draft needs after FA vs before.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I think what Kanata meant is that Gute can let the draft come to him and not need to make any panicky moves.

For an oversimplified example, GB has two S with 2nd round grades and three with 3rd round grades. After taking another position with the first 2nd round pick, Gutes thinking a S with the other 2nd rounder. But unexpected run sees the two 2nd graded S taken and even one of the 3rd round guys. With no McMinney and in that scenario, would Gute still trust his board or pull the trigger a round early and miss out on another guy?

With McKinney signed in that same scenario, Gute can just sit pat and trust his board. If he feels a little heat, he can move up using some Day 3 picks and get a guy he wants in the 3rd while still getting his guys in the 2nd.

Again, it's a bit of an oversimplified example.

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Mucky Tundra
a year ago

We're at 25, right? Here's the top 32 prospects per PFF.
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Here's the top LB / EDGE per PFF.
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Seeing these rankings makes me sad as it probably kills my Byron Murphy with the #25 pick dreams.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

We signed a S and RB, but we also let two at each position go. So we need to grab another still.

It might be interesting.to try to figure 9ut draft needs after FA vs before.

Originally Posted by: beast 


The draft needs haven't changed. The approach to the draft might have with the free agent signings. We just look at who's under contract in 2025 to know our needs by position. Teams that 'need' rookie players in April won't be playing in January.
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