Mucky Tundra
a year ago

The former Chargers head coach will interview to succeed his former subordinate, Joe Barry.

The Green Bay Packers  and head coach Matt LaFleur fired defensive coordinator Joe Barry on Wednesday, and it has taken about 48 hours for the first firm report of a candidate interviewing for the job to arrive. That report is now here and the first interviewee, according to Matt Schneidman of The Athletic, is former Los Angeles Chargers  head coach Brandon Staley.


The links between Staley and the Packers are numerous, and many of them involve the man he is interviewing to replace. A veteran of the Vic Fangio school of defense, Staley spent three seasons as the outside linebackers coach under Fangio, following him from Chicago to Denver after the 2018 season. He then got his first opportunity to be an NFL defensive coordinator in 2020, when the Los Angeles Rams  hired him to lead the defense under head coach Sean McVay — a close friend and former coworker of Matt LaFleur.


In that one year with the Rams, Staley’s defense was the best in the league in both points and yards allowed, featuring the top pass defense by net yards per attempt and the third-best in yards per rush. That performance earned Staley the head coaching job across the hall with the Los Angeles Chargers, a job he held until he was fired with three games remaining in the 2023 regular season.


The McVay connection is notable, but it is Joe Barry who is the strongest link between the Packers and Staley. Barry, who had been the Rams’ assistant head coach and linebackers coach from 2017 to 2020 and worked under Staley during his one year as Rams DC, was initially set to follow Staley to the Chargers to be their defensive passing game coordinator and linebackers coach. Instead, the Packers offered him their own DC job and he came to Green Bay instead.


Staley called the plays for the Chargers’ defense as their head coach, but that unit struggled to find any success during his tenure. The Chargers never ranked higher than 20th in either yards or points allowed in his three years at the helm, and they finished 28th in net yards per pass attempt allowed in 2023. The Packers beat Staley’s Chargers 23-20 in week 11 this fall, the first win of a three-game streak that set them on a path to a postseason berth.


Green Bay will surely have many more candidates come in for interviews in the next several days, but Staley’s performance at the head of a defense is a bit of a Rorschach Test. He would likely run a similar scheme to Barry’s, and he took the league by storm with the Rams in 2020, but he also has had no success standing up a quality unit with the Chargers. It should be no surprise that the Packers are bringing him in to interview, however, given the connections he has in Green Bay.




Continue Reading @ Evan "Tex" Western 

Evan "Tex" Western wrote:



Is this good or bad? In other words, did Staley simply have a stacked team as Rams DC or is he just a classic "works as a coordinator but is not a good head coach"?
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a year ago
I guess the question is with a lot of these coaching trees is, “ How many geniuses can you have from the same staff?”

it seems to me that a lot of the defensive assistants under McVay at the Rams have done pretty well… Are they all geniuses?

I guess when I look at history, I think of guys like Rex Ryan (or Buddy Ryan for some of your older guys), who were defensive coordinators, who, when they became head coaches, may not have been overly successful, but they still had really good defenses.

I don’t see that with Staley. And that concerns me.
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dfosterf
a year ago
Do you people realize just how much fun our off-season would be if the Packers announced that Bill Bellichek is the next defensive coordinator of the Green Bay Packers.

The whole world would freak out.

In China, for example...

"Gleen Bay Paka hire Bill cheeta supabow winner ahole as great wall defenda"
a year ago
it was so funny I loved it twice
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beast
a year ago

Do you people realize just how much fun our off-season would be if the Packers announced that Bill Bellichek is the next defensive coordinator of the Green Bay Packers.

The whole world would freak out.

In China, for example...

"Gleen Bay Paka hire Bill cheeta supabow winner ahole as great wall defenda"

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



That's sorta what I was hoping for, except Mike Vrabel. I just think that could potentially be awesome fit, Vrabel hired LaFleur as offensive coordinator and now LaFleur could return the favor and it could be a win-win.

Only down side is that if the Packers have quick success, some other team could hire Vrabel away after only a season or two.

But maybe Jets head coach, and LaFleur's best friend will be available at that time.
UserPostedImage
a year ago

That's sorta what I was hoping for, except Mike Vrabel. I just think that could potentially be awesome fit, Vrabel hired LaFleur as offensive coordinator and now LaFleur could return the favor and it could be a win-win.

Originally Posted by: beast 

IIRC wasn't there a falling out of some sort between them. Maybe I am misremembering, but I thought that did not end well.

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