Zero2Cool
a year ago
Seems since we lost Luke Musgrave the offense has been clicking more efficiently. Are we better with Tucker Kraft on offense?
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macbob
a year ago
No
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beast
a year ago

No

Originally Posted by: macbob 


What MacBob said...

I think the Packers have gotten better since Love and the WRs started their Tuesday night get togethers to get everyone on the same page which also happened to be when the OL started getting healthy.

I don't think Kraft is much of a factor other than being used in Wide Zone gimmicks and blocking which maybe LaFleaur's play calling is back to more standard stuff now that he doesn't have a speed TE.

But I think it's the OL getting healthy and passing game having extra meetings outside of the coaches and getting everyone on the same page
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Martha Careful
a year ago
thats awful
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a year ago
Musgrave is better than Kraft. The end.

Beast I am conflicted with your duo narrative. I need someone to take the middle ground and make your legacy complete.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Musgrave is better than Kraft. The end.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


I agree Musgrave is better than Kraft. That doesn't mean the sum of the parts is also better.

I hope Musgrave comes back soon. If he can figure out how to keep his balance I think he's gonna be one helluva threat!
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Mucky Tundra
a year ago

What MacBob said...

I think the Packers have gotten better since Love and the WRs started their Tuesday night get togethers to get everyone on the same page which also happened to be when the OL started getting healthy.

I don't think Kraft is much of a factor other than being used in Wide Zone gimmicks and blocking which maybe LaFleaur's play calling is back to more standard stuff now that he doesn't have a speed TE.

But I think it's the OL getting healthy and passing game having extra meetings outside of the coaches and getting everyone on the same page

Originally Posted by: beast 



Gonna agree wholeheartedly with what beast said. It's the off the field prep showing up. One of the bigger Packer Twittersphere commentators after the game pointed out that guys are just no longer running routes from the playbook but adjusting and attacking coverage based on what they're seeing presnap.

As nice as Kraft has been playing recently, he doesnt create as many mismatches as Musgrave can thanks to his size and speed. Just need to stop using Musgrave in Trips (Musgrave gets a catch and trips).
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beast
a year ago
It's "Everything is Better with Cheddar", not Kraft... but Cheddar, I know.Kraft is trying to replace the word Cheese with Kraft as a Branding deal, but we need to always remember Cheddar is better!

Hopefully this post isn't too cheesy 🧀
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Gonna agree wholeheartedly with what beast said. It's the off the field prep showing up. One of the bigger Packer Twittersphere commentators after the game pointed out that guys are just no longer running routes from the playbook but adjusting and attacking coverage based on what they're seeing presnap.

As nice as Kraft has been playing recently, he doesnt create as many mismatches as Musgrave can thanks to his size and speed. Just need to stop using Musgrave in Trips (Musgrave gets a catch and trips).

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 


Let's see if I can say this in a way it makes sense.

Musgrave is the better receiving threat between he and Kraft. We all agree with that, yes? So maybe they are game planning to utilize other facets of the offense and that has contributed to the (likely coincidence) improved efficiency? Rather than say 20% of plays leveraging Musgrave, now it's more like 5% for Kraft? 🤷
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Mucky Tundra
a year ago

Let's see if I can say this in a way it makes sense.

Musgrave is the better receiving threat between he and Kraft. We all agree with that, yes? So maybe they are game planning to utilize other facets of the offense and that has contributed to the (likely coincidence) improved efficiency? Rather than say 20% of plays leveraging Musgrave, now it's more like 5% for Kraft? 🤷

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



My answer would still be no. I think what's happening is that Kraft is doing all the nuts & bolts/dirty work stuff that DeGuara was supposed to be doing (and failing) like backside blocking, chip blocking, safety valve dump offs etc.
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