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The full Q&A with longtime NFL linebacker Chad Brown, a man with a fresh perspective on the future of football.

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It's a hectic morning. I haven't had a chance to read the whole article but this is so very true

I will say this — and not without a ton of regret — and it sounds cringeworthy: I was taught to hit the quarterback as hard as you can and try to hit him in the head because we can knock him out of the game. Obviously, the game has changed. It is not Roger Goodell, it’s not Brett Favre, it’s not me, it’s not you, it's not Tom Brady who ensures the football future in America. It’s Little Timmy’s Mom. So if Little Timmy’s Mom is not comfortable with Little Timmy playing football, then we don’t have enough dudes to play football. So the perception of safety needs to be at a high enough point where Mom feels a little comfortable with Timmy going out there and playing youth football. And then that’s what allows Timmy to fall in love with it. That’s what allows Timmy to go on and play high school football and then college and the NFL. But it’s that love early on — the Mom has to approve to get Little Timmy on the field. And so unless Mom thinks that the rules are going to be set in a place where he can be safe and not have brain damage when he is done and the fields are safer and helmet technology is moving at a faster pace than ever before — and all these publicity statements that the league puts out — then there’s not going to be football 20 or 30 years down the road.


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If people don't understand why players cry when they have a season/career ending injury this explains it. These guys pour themselves into their training. It isn't a simple 4 hours a day routine. It is 24 hours a day 7 days a week (Their sleep patterns are a part of their training too.) They give everything they have to be the best of the best and in an instant "pop" it's over. Gary cried when he was given the game ball after beating the Lions on TGD. His rehab was an even more difficult routine than what a typical NFL player goes through.

And then if you want to continue to excel in this game at certain positions, it requires an incredible amount of physicality. And typically the more physical you are, the more you are willing to risk your life in limb, so to speak, the higher you will go. And the pain factor has always been a way to weed out people at each level of football. You're running around as an elementary school kid and you're barely falling on top of each other. By the time you get to junior high, there's some kids who are more mature and they’re like trained assassins out there. Then you get to high school and it's like, “Oh my gosh, that dude is 300 pounds in high school! And I got to play against this guy.” And that continues as you move up through the game and it continues to weed out people.


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This is a very interesting thread. I would like to interject an opinion into the discussion see what you gentlemen think.

My late husband and all three of my sons played football. All were above average in height and build and so naturally that was an advantage. However, my husband did not allow the boys to play tackle (even though they wanted to) until 8th grade. He had several reasons for this:
- he did not think of the boys were physically mature enough to play football
- he did not want our larger kids hurting the younger kids who were not physically mature
- he did not feel that the coaching at the youth levels was worth the risk

He had them play flag football to learn general concepts until they were more physically mature. Were they at a disadvantage their first year competing with kids who had played for three or four years? Sure, but we were playing the long game. They held their own and by the end of the 8th grade they were completely ”caught up” in terms of game experience and acumen.
I think the discussion point in regard to” selling the moms” to allow their kids to play football is an excellent one. I know for me, it was far easier to let them play when I knew they were properly coached and that they were physically mature enough to play.

I really think that the pee-wee/youth leagues probably do more harm than they do good in terms of endearing people to the game. There are many kids who mature earlier who are All Stars in 3rd grade who by the time they get to high school simply cannot compete because the other kids have all caught up or surpassed them in terms of physical maturity. Ironically, the kids who mature later have to learn techniques at an earlier age to be able to compete. Then, when they mature they have “it all”.

I have probably mentioned that my husband coached for many years and would discuss how the game had changed both in terms of the rules and equipment and speed. He happened to play linebacker and would tell me that he would absolutely level receivers crossing in front of him who were running crossing routes. At the time this was within the rules, and it had the effect of slowing down receivers crossing the middle. I can imagine what Quay Walker (or a Dick Butkus) would do to Tyreek Hill crossing in front of him if he could under those rules.

Accordingly, the game has to be coached and taught differently. I sometimes wonder however if the illegality of downfield contact doesn't speed up the game such that injuries are more prevalent.

As I said this is a very interesting topic and I look forward to other people's comments.

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Martha you made some good comments. (as always.) Back in the stone ages when I was a lad we didn't have flag football. We had 6-8 grade youth football. I was pretty small so I was allowed to play with the "lights" instead of the "heavies" even though I was in 8th grade. I was the only 8th grader on the lightweight team. I loved it. I was one of the biggest guys on the team. RT and DT. I played all the time. I wouldn't have played if I was on the heavyweight team. The school I went to as a freshman didn't have a football team. We moved and the first day of practice was the day we came to town. Being the new kid and not very athletic seemed like a disaster to me. I went to work at the local hamburger joint instead.
My son did not want to play football at any level. Ever.
As far as coaching again you and your husband were correct. I liked our coach but he didn't have the skills to teach kids at every single position. He had one assistant. He took the offense and the other guy the defense. 3/4 of the way through the season I was pulled off the DL. They didn't like something I was doing but to this day I don't know what it was. They never told me what they expected me to do. Rush the QB (who rarely threw.) and tackle the RB. Nothing about what I needed to do to make a move on the lineman in front of me. Same on offense. I knew nothing about blocking except to engage the DL and push him out of the way. Usually to my right.
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As far as coaching again you and your husband were correct. I liked our coach but he didn't have the skills to teach kids at every single position. He had one assistant. He took the offense and the other guy the defense. 3/4 of the way through the season I was pulled off the DL. They didn't like something I was doing but to this day I don't know what it was. They never told me what they expected me to do. Rush the QB (who rarely threw.) and tackle the RB. Nothing about what I needed to do to make a move on the lineman in front of me. Same on offense. I knew nothing about blocking except to engage the DL and push him out of the way. Usually to my right.

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In baseball/softball, if you coach a kid wrong, you might mess up an arm...or if you teach him/her to slide wrong, maybe a leg. In basketball, you just lose. In volleyball, you just lose.

However in football, you could get a head or neck injury, paralysis or death. Thankfully, there is much more sensitivity (and sanity) in regard to concussions in sports. Most HS and middle school coaches have to take concussion awareness courses (I doubt pee-wee guys do). BTW, the most prolific concussion sport is (and neck injuries) is girl's soccer.

I am rambling, but WPR, your coaching experience in football is not out of the ordinary from what I have seen and heard.

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