beast
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5 years ago
The main reason I wanted to post this article was as to my theory of why Mike Pettine doesn't want to be a head coach again (at least for a while)... Pettine said it was because the job flips from 10% administrative to 90% administrative (instead of football which is what he wants to focus on)... but my theory goes that 90% administrative was partly dealing with an owner who gets too involved and won't you do what's best for your football team...


In 2014 Mike Pettine became the Browns head coach, also the same year that owner Jimmy Haslam is rumored to have forced 1st round rookie Johnny Manziel on the field despite objections from the coaches... which cause Kyle Shanahan to quit at years end. But apparently it goes deeper than that....

Haslam has, according to the report, angered the football people by inviting friends, family and corporate sponsors into the draft room, while the draft is going on. Specifically, the report says Haslam wanted to draft Johnny Manziel in 2014, and “the war room was packed with Haslam’s guests” to see it happen.

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The 2014 draft was also the draft that the Cowboys surprised everyone... as the Cowboys needed a starting QB, and their GM/owner Jerry Jones loves hyped guys... and the very hyped QB Johnny Manziel was there for the taking... and they select... IOL Zack Martin?

Though it later came out, that when the Cowboys went onto the clock... Jerry grabbed Manziel draft card, and started walking to hand it in... and his son, Stephen, ran to catch up with him, snatched the card out of his hands and ripped it up before talking Jerry into coming back to the draft table... and then they as a group selected Zack Martin. And that's also when it because more known that Stephen Jones is now unofficially running the Cowboys personal (though Jerry is still the face and wants to act like the big shot in complete control). But that also explains why the Cowboys drafts suddenly became different drafting linemen higher and team becoming more successful in the draft overall.
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5 years ago
You don't have to be part of the media or a football professional to see that teams, where the owner is choosing the players, don't do well. Redskins owner Daniel Snyder is a prime example. Browns owner Jimmy Haslam is another. Other teams also fall into this category as well. They (the team owners) have however invested a considerable chunk of their money and must feel that it is their privilege to get their way no matter whether they are right or wrong. In the end, most of the time, the team, the city, and the fans suffer as the owner pours himself another glass of Scotch.

John Gruden has apparently made some kind of hands off deal with the Raiders owner. It remains to be seen how ripping the team apart will fare following the 2019 NFL Draft. The impending move to Las Vegas must figure into this strategy, but it has not yet revealed itself.

Each team in the NFL, with the exception of the Packers, has some owner connected story to tell. The ones that hire a highly qualified GM to run the franchise do best. That does not mean to say that the owner is not aware of what is going on with his and the other teams.

So far GB has not had any highly questionable calls from it's GM. Parting with Mike McCarthy should be a good thing for the Packers. Retaining DC Mike Pettine is good as the defense did show improvement last season and should do so moving forward. The thing that Coach Pettine needs the most are better players at the Edge Rusher and Safety positions. Saying goodbye to Matthews could be a great first step toward hiring replacements.

Coach LeFleur's new offensive system will need some new players also. The Right Tackle and TE positions, IMO, need to be addressed.
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KRK
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5 years ago
interesting read.

Pettine is a man comfortable in his own skin.

Once burned, twice shy.

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