jdlax
a year ago
Under the lens of I am pretty sure this isn't gonna be a "Super year", shit like today isn't the end of the world.

Under the lens of I am super excited about this season and the good side of what our young guns have shown, 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡👺
nerdmann
a year ago
On the good side, even without a couple of our best players, we showed we can beat this team on the road.

On the bad side, we didn't.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
hardrocker950
a year ago
Frustrating loss - game we should have won. Defense couldn't stop the run, even when they made it obvious what they were going to do. Different year - same shit - especially when it mattered the most. The opponent figured out where we struggled to tackle runners and kept running right at them - been a thing for a while now. With a good RB, you need to commit to stopping him - even if it means having someone assigned to him on EVERY PLAY!

Offense showed they could do some damage in the 3rd quarter... but where were they at when it was time to close the game? Playcalling wasn't exactly spectacular late in the game, but the execution was poor as well.

I don't have much faith in the run D getting better... Our DC hasn't shown that he can make tweaks and adjustments when opponents exploit his scheme - more teams seem to be figuring it out every year.
a year ago
I tried to call the author for additional commentary, but I must have gotten the Wong number.

Kristin Wong wrote:

3 Packers to blame for Week 2 loss in Atlanta
Story by Kristen Wong •

So much for the Jordan Love era.

It's still early in the 2023 season, and the Packers have plenty of time to sort the kinks of their offense and defense out. That being said, Week 2's loss to the Atlanta Falcons should not have ended that way.

The Packers held a 24-12 lead over the Falcons going into the fourth quarter. Somehow, Atlanta managed to stage a comeback to win the game, 25-24.

How did we get here? What happened to the Packers team that so thoroughly dominated the Bears but lost on Sunday to an NFC South lightweight?

No single person is at fault, for this was a combined effort, a masterclass, even, by the Packers' offense and defense demonstrating how to blow a game.

Here are three Packers who could be considered most to blame for Week 2's loss to the Falcons.

Packers to blame for Week 2 loss: A.J. Dillon
Aaron Jones was ruled out of Week 2, which means A.J. Dillon had some decent-sized shoes to fill. Suffice it to say, Dillon did not do a good job at controlling the run game.

Dillon finished with 15 carries for 55 yards, averaging just 3.7 yards per attempt. His longest run was for eight yards, and he only had one catch the whole game. With Jones sidelined, Dillon had to step up as the team's dominant rusher -- and 3.7 yards per attempt just won't cut it.

The Packers were missing offensive tackle David Bakhtiari, which most likely factored into the Packers' struggles to run the rock. Still, for a backup like Dillon who received nothing but praise from coaches heading into the 2023 season, he simply had to make a more positive impact in this game.

After Dillon's unimpressive outing as the RB1 in Week 2, it's not hard to see why the Packers were taking a flyer on Colts' Jonathan Taylor a few weeks ago. Cam Akers trade incoming?

Packers to blame for Week 2 loss: Jordan Love
To preface, Jordan Love is doing just fine in his first year as the Packers' full-time starter. He only missed a few crucial throws, that's all.

In 2023, Love already has more three-touchdown games than Rodgers did in 2022. Considering that Love was playing without David Bakhtiari, Christian Watson, and Aaron Jones, his stock should only be rising.

And it is. It just dipped at times in Week 2's loss when Love missed his open wide receivers on a handful of occasions, one of which would have resulted in a touchdown for Romeo Doubs. Love also messed up a fourth-down quarterback sneak attempt that killed a key offensive drive.

Other times in the game, Love played with absolute pinpoint accuracy, throwing darts to Dontayvion Wicks and Jayden Reed and looking cool and composed in the pocket. If these first two games were a test to see if Love could handle QB1 duties, Love has passed with flying colors.

As far as Sunday's loss goes, however, Love may still shoulder some of the blame for the fact that he's meant to be the leader on the Packers offense. An offense that went three-and-out on two of the final three drives and then turned the ball over on downs on the third drive.

Love played a clean game and didn't commit any blatant game-changing gaffes, but still, if he's going to be the franchise quarterback, he can't allow the offense to fall apart at the end of games. The blame falls on other players in the offense, but especially him, the darling talent of the Packers' future.

Packers to blame for Week 2 loss: Run defense, and also, Joe Barry
Joe Barry and Matt Canada should start a support group for coordinators who have been vilified by their respective fan bases.

After Week 2, Packers fans are going to be hoisting the pitchforks for Joe Barry's sacking. The defense -- and the run defense in particular -- was abysmal in the final half of the Falcons loss. Falcons running back Bijan Robinson soared high with 19 carries for 124 yards which is impressive in itself, but.... the Packers had to know this was going to be Atlanta's game plan, right?

Green Bay gave up 175 yards on the Falcons' final three drives, allowing them to dominate time of possession and cap off the comeback with a game-winning field goal. When you're holding a 12-point lead into the fourth quarter, this kind of thing -- lack of mental fortitude, sloppiness, poor play-calling, whatever you want to call it -- can't happen.

We listed the run defense as the main unit to blame in Week 2, yet all parts of Barry's defense were misfiring by the end of that loss. When the Packers needed to get a crucial stop, they failed. When they needed to try and plug the Falcons' rushing attack or apply heavy pressure on Desmond Ridder (who was sacked just once) or jam up the passing lanes, they failed.

The Falcons only punted once on Sunday. In the second half, they drove down the field time after time to convert field goals and slowly build up hope for a comeback. It's Barry's and the defense's job to crush that hope, and unfortunately, the unit failed to work together to do so on Sunday.

Barry, who has served as the Packers' defensive coordinator for the last three years, is back on the hot seat after Week 2's loss to the Falcons. Some will say he never really left.


Go Packers!!!!
nerdmann
a year ago

I tried to call the author for additional commentary, but I must have gotten the Wong number.

Kristin Wong wrote:

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 


How about Christian Watson? I'll give Aaron Jones the benefit of the doubt.
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umair_010
a year ago
Watson has been hanging around Bak too much it seems.
beast
a year ago
Dillon absolutely did seem to be tripping over his own feet while running straight and not being touched at times, hurting his momentum.

But as far as I can tell, Joe Barry called a good game, he attempted a lot of adjustments, including 3 ILBers, or using the linemen heavy Bears front. Yeah the players failed in the 4th quarter, but why are we blaming Barry for that when the offense failed to get a single first down in the 4th quarter? The defense wore out, and they STILL almost stopped them, didn't quite get it done.

I think injuries, Jones, Watson, Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Van Ness, and probably more should be blamed why before Barry and Love.

Also drops should be blamed before Barry and Love. I believe the defense dropped 3 Interceptions including what most likely would of been a Pick 6 for Alexander, and Wicks dropped a TD, though they still got the FG. If they just caught the balls that hit their hands the Packers win this game easily.
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nerdmann
a year ago

Dillon absolutely did seem to be tripping over his own feet while running straight and not being touched at times, hurting his momentum.

But as far as I can tell, Joe Barry called a good game, he attempted a lot of adjustments, including 3 ILBers, or using the linemen heavy Bears front. Yeah the players failed in the 4th quarter, but why are we blaming Barry for that when the offense failed to get a single first down in the 4th quarter? The defense wore out, and they STILL almost stopped them, didn't quite get it done.

I think injuries, Jones, Watson, Bakhtiari, Jenkins, Van Ness, and probably more should be blamed why before Barry and Love.

Also drops should be blamed before Barry and Love. I believe the defense dropped 3 Interceptions including what most likely would of been a Pick 6 for Alexander, and Wicks dropped a TD, though they still got the FG. If they just caught the balls that hit their hands the Packers win this game easily.

Originally Posted by: beast 


I think we're ok for the most part. Barry had them in position to get all those INTs, dudes just didn't convert, didn't make the plays. Like Savage getting 20 yards across the field, then whiffing on the ball.

I think Love is what cost us here most of all. Last three drives were all three and outs. You gonna be able to drain a little time there. Or at least hit Doubs on that crosser, he takes that to the house.

Defense was OK until the 4th quarter. Bijan Robinson is like Payton or Peterson. He's gonna get his yards. What we did is we let them have the opportunity by not running that clock down.

Jlove is gonna be very good, I just think he's soft right now. They used to say Starr was the nicest guy you'd ever meet, off the field. But on the field? He'd cut your heart out and feed it to you.

Jlove is out there calculating the algorithm, figuring out who to throw the ball to. But he's not trying to eviscerate people. He's socially casual out there. I'd like to see him with a little more passion.

Today we let the defense get worn down. Left 'em swinging in the breeze. Hopefully it's a teachable moment.
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