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a year ago
QB Aaron Rodgers takes a $33.7 million pay cut 

There’s another wrinkle to this. Rodgers told Peter King that the extra cash and cap space will allow the Jets to be competitive when it comes to adding players at the trade deadline. That’s something the Packers routinely pondered in recent years with Rodgers on the team, but never pulled off.



Bakhtiari to the Jets? 🤔

Yes, that's why I'm posting this here. While I think the Packers seriously want Bakhtiari around to protect Love, if the Jets get desperate, I could see them go all out to win in these next two years which matches Bakhtiari's contract perfectly.

What would it cost for you? Instead of getting the Jets 2024 1st OR 2nd depending if Rodgers plays 65% of the snaps with poor OTs. What if the Jets offered 2024 1st AND 2nd if we gave them Bakhtiari and they took his salary off our hands? Though I'm betting the Packers would first ask about a 2025 1st instead.





It's no secret that the Jets weakness is their OTs, even when healthy. And especially now with both of their projected OTs injured and Billy Turner rotating as your starting LT.   They got depth, they lack quality. 

Jets injured starting LT is Duane Brown, a decade in the Texans, 5 years on the Seahawks and now the Jets. In 2022, his pass blocking was top 40 but his run blocking was down right awful. 

Jets injured RT is 6'7" 340lb Mekhi Becton, (whom the Jets unexplainably drafted over OT Tristan Wirfs in the 2020 1st round). Becton started 13 games his rookie year, and then has blow out his right knee every September since ending his seasons before they get started, and supposedly tweaked it early this year.

Jets also have 2022 4th rounder Max Mitchell, whom I like, but I thought would be moved to OG in the pros. OTs need to be freak athletes or sorta have a mental calm to not over react. Mitchell over reacts and is a decent athlete, but not a freak one.

And Billy Turner, whom I think we all remember his best days. But then got some sort of injury and looked pretty bad last year with the Broncos, though he was still recovering, and some injuries, they don't seem themselves until their 2nd year back.
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dfosterf
a year ago
I will be very surprised if Dalvin Cook isn't a
New York Jet by Monday
That being said, I believe we can afford to lose Bahk to the Jets if the price is right. Their 2nd rounder isn't enough. This opinion is highly subject to how things look going into the regular season






 
Zero2Cool
a year ago
I would assume that if they have an All-Pro at LT, that would increase their chances of winning more games. And more wins means lower draft pick. That being said, if the Jets compensation offer would be tricky.

Packers have the 2024 2nd Round pick from Jets. It gets upgraded to 1st Round if Rodgers plays 65% or more snaps during 2023 season. If I understand that correctly, I would have to say my compensation ties to Rodgers snap count.

Rodgers > 65%
2024 2nd Round
2025 1st Round

Rodgers < 65%
2024 1st Round
2025 2nd Round

In short, I'd want to ensure I have Jets 1st and 2nd round picks for 2024 and 2025 for giving them All-Pro QB and All-Pro LT.  No matter what, they're taking the salary off my hands.
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a year ago

I will be very surprised if Dalvin Cook isn't a
New York Jet by Monday
That being said, I believe we can afford to lose Bahk to the Jets if the price is right. Their 2nd rounder isn't enough. This opinion is highly subject to how things look going into the regular season
 

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 


Yes like I said I'm sure they would go for a 1st round pick first. Locking up Jets 2024 and 2025 1st round picks would be nice compensation, and not having to pay those salaries as we're seemingly going younger and trying to gain future cap space.

But would the Jets give up two 1st? Maybe... Woody Johnson is 76, and Jets supposedly have the longest playoff drought of any top professional league in North America, having not been to the playoffs since the Packers won their Super Bowl.


Of course, Packers probably aren't going to do this, especially if it leaves 1st year starter Jordan Love out to dry. 

Do they trust both Tom and Nijman to both be starters?

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dfosterf
a year ago
I wonder what we could get if we tossed Sean Rhyan into the trade mix...
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I wonder what we could get if we tossed Sean Rhyan into the trade mix...

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Probably nothing more. Jets interior OL (when healthy) might be better than the Packers interior OL. And Jets just drafted Wisconsin's C/G Joe Trippmann in the 2nd round.

Though, Rhyan supposedly showed up in a lot better shape than last year. But still, I think he's getting 4th string OC snaps, not sure about OG, as I haven't heard about OG. 

My guess would be that he's getting 3rd string OG snaps behind Jenkins, Runyan, Newman and Hanson, at least to start camp.

Edit: Just read Rhyan was 2nd string LG with Hanson as the 2nd string Center, and Newman 2nd string RG.



Also side note on RB Dalvin Cook... I don't mind him playing the Dolphins and Jets (and some say Patriots) off each other) to get them to pay more... but I'm getting tired of him doing it publicly.

Cook: Odds “pretty high” that I sign with Jets... 

No reason to say that publicly, unless you're trying to drive up the price from others. Trying to get his home town Dolphins to pay more? Or just waiting for the Aaron Rodgers pay cut money to sign?

 
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a year ago
2 firsts for one of the best LT in the league. I don't give a trip what his salary or injury history is.
Pay up or tell your story walking.

edit- Yosh was above average in pass protecion when we was LT. That gives me some hope he could hold up. If not 2024 slide Jenkins out and move someone into LG.

“Nijman is far from a household name, but he’s played left tackle (782 snaps) and right tackle (528) since 2020 at an above-average level. Those guys get paid, and paid big,” DeChant wrote. “He’s been best on the left, allowing three sacks and a 2.94 percent pressure rate, compared to five [sacks] and 4.36 [percent rate], respectively, on the right. A restricted free agent this offseason, Nijman received the second-round tender (worth $4.3 million) from the Packers. He could push for $17 million or more annually on his next deal.”

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a year ago
Back to AA Ron- Years and years ago I thought I heard him say (Somewhere between his 2nd and 3rd contracts) he wouldn't mind taking a pay cut in order to help with the salary cap situation. It would allow the team to acquire addiotnal talented players. ALAS, the NFLPA won't let him. It would set a bad situation for the middle level players. Teams would tell them if Rodgers is willing to give up millions of dollars to help the team they should be willing to give up a couple of million as well. He had to keep all that money for the sake of his teammates. It sounded kind of phoney to me. Other high paid players were dipping into the wallets for the sake of the team.
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Mucky Tundra
a year ago
The only number I'm concerned about with Rodgers now is the 65% of QB snaps taken for the NY Jets. If taking a pay cut helps then so be it. 
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a year ago

The only number I'm concerned about with Rodgers now is the 65% of QB snaps taken for the NY Jets. If taking a pay cut helps then so be it. 

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Is it an actual pay cut or just money moved around as we know he only had 2 years left on the contract but the Jets technically have the contract thru 2027 to help with the bonus hit.  And there is no way you can tell me that someone that demanded to be the highest paid QB is just going to give up $35 million lol.  If he was so gun ho on being a team player why did he hold the Packers hostage and make them give him the largest contract at the time 2 years ago? I will love it after he plays his 65% of the snaps and his team is in the bottom of their division and have to give the Packers a top 10 pick.
 
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