nerdmann
a year ago
This dudehttps://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/the-lass-word-packers-give-opportunity-to-a-knucklehead-710  can ball. Let's hope he can pull it together. Malcontent. 

I like him on the field tho. Former 5 star recruit at Edge. 
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beast
a year ago
I think Cox will be among the top 53 players, even if they try to sneak him to the PS.


Note that Cox got kicked off Georgia and Florida for a lot more reasons than the article listed. As clearly less talented players got in trouble for same thing and they did not get kicked off. But the public that were there don't seem to be publicly talking, and I don't think anyone else knows the truth. The little amount that has been made public, at minimum, he rubbed a hell lot of people the wrong way.

Cox himself tried to explain it as others don't understand his competitive nature (which I assume to means just how competitive he is), and that's what rubs people the wrong way.

But a lot of players are competitive as hell and don't get kicked off two SEC teams (especially Florida which has a reputation of allowing a good bit, though that reputation comes from when a different head coach was in charge).

Reminds me of when DT Mike Daniels would be screaming like hell in the locker room after any and all team losses,  supposedly upset some.


So I don't think it's just his competitive nature, but maybe his attitude and demeanor and how he interacts with others when that competitive nature takes over and especially when he doesn't get his desired results. I think the coaches felt it negatively impacted those around him. But this is a bunch of guessing as no one will come out and directly bluntly say anything.

My guess is the kid puts a freaking ton of pressure on himself to preform at the highest levels of everything he does, and when he doesn't live up to his standards or he loses, sometimes things get too negative or too something that's seen as a negative to coaches.


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a year ago
He's worth a roll of the dice.
The question is how many Edge rushers do we keep?
If healthy we have Gary, Preston, LVN for sure.
More than likely will be Enagbare.
Fighting for the last spot(s) are Hamilton, Hollins and Garvin.
Then comes Cox.
No shot is Sheshawn Banks. He would have to impress the heck out of everyone to get bumped up.
Last is PS under the international rules Kenneth Odumegwu.

According to Ourlads the Packers had 5 Edge rushers on 9-1-22. Gary, Preston, Enagbare, Garvin and Tipa Galeai.

I am going to assume Gary starts the year on the PUP. That means 2 of the 3 Hollins, Hamilton and Garvin will make the roster for 6 weeks. Hollins is probable. Garvin is possible. Hamilton probably not. Cox will fit right in with Garvin. Cox will have to learn the system. Garvin is a couple of years ahead of him.

 
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
I'd be OK with just about anyone on 90 man roster. It's one of ninety. Give them a chance. 
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beast
a year ago

He's worth a roll of the dice.
The question is how many Edge rushers do we keep?
If healthy we have Gary, Preston, LVN for sure.
More than likely will be Enagbare.
Fighting for the last spot(s) are Hamilton, Hollins and Garvin.
Then comes Cox.
No shot is Sheshawn Banks. He would have to impress the heck out of everyone to get bumped up.
Last is PS under the international rules Kenneth Odumegwu.

According to Ourlads the Packers had 5 Edge rushers on 9-1-22. Gary, Preston, Enagbare, Garvin and Tipa Galeai.

I am going to assume Gary starts the year on the PUP. That means 2 of the 3 Hollins, Hamilton and Garvin will make the roster for 6 weeks. Hollins is probable. Garvin is possible. Hamilton probably not. Cox will fit right in with Garvin. Cox will have to learn the system. Garvin is a couple of years ahead of him.

 

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Packers usually keep 5 OLBers, but that's also partly because usually they don't have quality depth to even consider keeping more. If Gary is healthy, I think this year they have enough to consider it (not saying they do it, but they very well could consider it). Especially if Van Ness is helping out the DL at 3 tech at times like has seemingly been discussed by Kenny Clark.

I think everyone will agree the top 4 OLB are Gary, Preston, Van Ness and Enagbare. But I disagree with your fighting for #5 spot.


I think #5 spot is a battle between Hollins and Cox. If all things were equal, Hollins would easily win, but he's on a one year veterans contract without much upside potential, where Cox (officially on a 3 year deal) effective has to wait 4 years until he can get to the veterans contracts and has more development potential.

But I think the Packers could potentially keep six with both Hollins and Cox. Though Garvin would get some consideration for his STs play. And they might consider trying to sneak Cox to the PS.
 
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dfosterf
a year ago

I'd be OK with just about anyone on 90 man roster. It's one of ninety. Give them a chance. 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I believe we get to keep 91 with the international player.
buckeyepackfan
a year ago
Cox is a Low risk, High reward player.

Football talent is the least of his worries.

His biggest challenge is to prove to The Packers he has GROWN up.
He proved he wasn't a Team player in College.
Could be a little dose of reality is all he needs..


Pretty sure The Internatonal players are not counted against the 90 man roster. 
Also they are not counted as a P.S  player.
That gives them a full year of development without hurting The Teams they have been assigned to .
They are only counted if they get promoted to the 53 man roster.
Considering The Packers guy has never played any type of organized football,  it would be a miracle he would ever be considered to play on the 53.
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beast
a year ago


Pretty sure The Internatonal players are not counted against the 90 man roster. 
Also they are not counted as a P.S  player.
That gives them a full year of development without hurting The Teams they have been assigned to .
They are only counted if they get promoted to the 53 man roster.

Considering The Packers guy has never played any type of organized football,  it would be a miracle he would ever be considered to play on the 53.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I believe only two internal players have made a 53 man roster. I don't know how many there have been total, but it's pretty low percentage.

And one of those two played on an under 19 years old American football team in Europe, before transfering to the US for his Senior year and played college ball in the SEC. So he wasn't exactly new to football after playing it (I believe) 7 years (including SEC) before getting an International Spot. And the other one spent four years on NFL PS teams before making it.

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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I believe we get to keep 91 with the international player.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



I didn't know Brenton Cox was an international player.
 
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beast
a year ago

I didn't know Brenton Cox was an international player.
 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


He's not, but 22 year old, 6'6" 259lb Kenneth Odumegwu is an international player, which sounds like most of his experience is basketball and soccer and winning an MVP award at a NFL International Mini Camp thing.  
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