Martha Careful
a year ago
Kris Burke wrote

The Packers are ready for a liberated Matt LaFleur to cook
The fourth year coach can finally run his offense, but is he up to the challenge?
By Kris Burke@KrisBurke  Jul 4, 2023, 11:30am CDT  

Matt LaFleur, welcome to the first day of the rest of your life.

If there’s one person in the Green Bay Packers franchise not named Jordan Love with the most to prove this year, it might actually be the team’s fourth year head coach. That might be crazy talk in normal circumstances for a coach who has won over 70% of his games, but these are not normal times in Titletown. For the first time in 15 years, there’s a new starting quarterback in command.

For his critics, LaFleur’s security blanket is gone. For his advocates, LaFleur had an albatross removed from his back. That blanket and/or bird is of course former quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who’s of course now a New York Jet.

The doubters will say LaFleur rode the coattails of his former quarterback and that with Love running his offense, the head coach will prove to be not quite as good as his historic winning percentage indicates. Believers in LaFleur will argue that without the control obsessed Rodgers under center and a quarterback he has helped mold from day one in his place, LaFleur will finally be able to run the offense he’s really wanted to run since his arrival in Green Bay in 2019.

There was much ballyhoo about how things would work between Rodgers and LaFleur when the coach was hired, especially around “the audible thing.” The solution was somewhere in the middle: the Packers ran many LaFleur concepts while keeping a lot of things Rodgers was comfortable with, even if they weren’t staples of the coach’s scheme (lack of motion, more quarterback audible control, etc).

Now, with Love, LaFleur has full control of the kitchen and can finally utilize his full bag of tricks. Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs, and others can move at will before the snap, Aaron Jones can be used in a multitude of ways, and the coach can have confidence the play he calls is what will be run.

While this all sounds tremendously positive, those with doubts do need to be given some credence. We don’t actually know how well this will all come together and there’s a not-insignificant chance LaFleur might not be all that some think he’s cracked up to be.

That’s the whole theme of this upcoming Packers season: sailing into the unknown. A big part of that is Love, but LaFleur should be part of that as well. Thankfully, those with concerns can listen to the words of their now former quarterback, who gave LaFleur a lot of credit for the two MVP awards he won under his watch (even if arguably the drafting of his successor may have been what lit the spark).

Regardless of where you fall, LaFleur is truly free to spread his wings and show what he can do.

We already know he can run a locker room. Vibes around the team have been stellar every year since he took charge and that hasn’t changed at all in this first year with Love. In fact, if you look at the myriad Instagram posts throughout the summer from a variety of players, one could argue the vibes are better than ever.

It’s the on-field work that will ultimately define LaFleur’s legacy in Green Bay and it will largely hinge on how Love plays
To paraphrase former coach Mike Holmgren, LaFleur and Love are now joined at the hip. They will either reach the top of the mountain together or end up in the trash together.

But it will be together.

It’s time to see what they can do. It could be good, it could be bad. Until then, there’s fresh air at 1265 Lombardi Avenue as the anticipation of the start of new era builds as each day training camp gets closer.

It’s time to get to work.

It’s time to let Matt LaFleur cook.

I thought this was a great column.  It efficiently voices what I had tried in vain to say in other threads.

 I hope MLF excels in his game planning and game day coaching.   We may surprise some folks this year, especially if the D plays up to potential
Go Packers!!!!
beast
a year ago
I think they broke down the dynamic very well, and the difference we could be seeing, and the uncertainty I'm how the difference will result in.


But I disagree with us knowing he can run a locker room and even more so, select the correct person for the job.

He selected Joe Barry over Ejiro Evero as defensive coordinator and Evero has seemingly had more success in a small sample.

And just last year reporters seemed to be whispering that defensive players were openly saying ever bad thing about Joe Barry. Which the reporters whispers seemed to suggest it was mostly DBs.

And we later found out that coach Jerry Gray and Barry weren't on the same page.

Also late in the season, there was an article about the DL players going to Barry and telling him to keep it more simple and when he finally listened they add more success.


Currently it seems like LaFleaur's weakness is selecting the right people and while the locker room like LaFleaur, it doesn't like the people LaFleaur puts in control, which if that continues, sooner or later that will blow up and be a locker room issue, so I don't feel we can say LaFleaur can run a locker room yet, especially the locker room of a struggling team. And most reasonable people can run a locker room of success, just don't run it off the rails.
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nerdmann
a year ago

Kris Burke wroteI thought this was a great column.  It efficiently voices what I had tried in vain to say in other threads.

 I hope MLF excels in his game planning and game day coaching.   We may surprise some folks this year, especially if the D plays up to potential

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



PREDICTION: Packers offense will be better than the Jets. No jinx. 
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
a year ago

PREDICTION: Packers offense will be better than the Jets. No jinx. 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If that happens, my guess is it's because the Jets OL falls apart and/or Jets can't handle the OL's lack of pass protection. But people were pretty surprised how poor the Broncos offense was last year, it could happen to Nathaniel Hackett again.
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