How the Packers’ Offense Can Focus on Layups and 3s

beast
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a year ago

The analytical revolution in the NBA brought us more layups and 3s. Some teams have gone so far that they don’t shoot a single midrange shot for a whole game, the entirety of their offense is built around those two shots. In the NFL, we’re still at the three stage. The most successful offenses are [...]

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PackersTalk wrote:

Talking Football using Basketball terms

Since I'm not a basketball fan, I don't love the basketball terms, but I did like the breakdown given, runs for the 1st down and taking some of the deep shots.

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Martha Careful
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a year ago

From the article cited

"The Packers’ run game should be one of the strongest in the league next season. They have a top 5ish back in Aaron Jones, one of the best number 2 backs in AJ Dillon, a top 5 offensive line, a mobile QB, and, maybe most important, a head coach and offensive coordinator who want to run the ball well. "

Assessments which I agree:

2 strong backs
a Mobile QB
a HC and OC who want to run

Items Left out:

Two new tight ends who have a willingness (and hopefully ability to block)
We should likely be in 12 package more this year with these 2 TE, which leads to better blocking

Assessments which I disgree:

We do not have a top 5 line, especially in run blocking as many previous threads have deconstructed.
Quoting Beast in this regard from another thread:

Maybe 3rd for pass blocking, but certainly not for run blocking nor overall. The OL was absolutely shit at times in run blocking and the last year of the season the Lions linemen ate the Packers lunch and stole their wallets, straight up kicking their arses.

Packers don't even have the #1 OL in the NFC North, there is no chance their #3 overall for the entire NFL.

Packers have Bakhtiari, Jenkins and a lot of questions. I do agree the Packers have a ton of depth, but the issue is quality starters.

Further, as an offense, we had better game plan some slants and WR screens to mitigate the blitzes we are likely to see, not just rely on runs. Running into blitzes can be difficult, resulting in 'stuffs' per another thread.

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