Packers and First Round WR· Page 2

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

a year ago

This Jaxon Smith-Njigba guy didn't even play much last season. And when he did he wasn't effective. Apparently he missed the brunt of the season from ... oh you will LOVE this one ... hamstring injury? Do we really wanna burn up 13th overall on a hamstring injury WR? Do we not have enough soft tissue injuries already? I think Sammy Watkins and Christian Watson both missed games from hamstring injuries.

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

And the year before that he had 95 receptions and 1606 yards (16.9 average) with 9 TDs. From what I gathered, if you were to draw up the ideal slot receiver/occasional boundary guy, it'd be Smith-Njigba.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

a year ago

#12

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

You mean the year he had WR Chris Olave (11th overall) and WR Garrett Wilson (10th overall - rookie of the year 2022) on the field with him? You mean, he put up big numbers with those guys sharing the attention? I know that sounds like I'm jumping your ass -- but I am not. I'm just putting out some stuff to consider.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

a year ago

#13

You mean the year he had WR Chris Olave (11th overall) and WR Garrett Wilson (10th overall - rookie of the year 2022) on the field with him? You mean, you put up big numbers with those guys sharing the attention?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Well I guess that's why he was the slot receiver lol.

And you're saying that Watson and Doubs arent as good as Olave and Wilson and that Njigba wouldn't thrive thanks to those two? Oh ye of little faith! 🤔😉

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nerdmann
Premier Member

a year ago

#14

Got a lot of stats even though those two other guys got theirs. Something to be said for that.

I expect them to trade down, but if they make a selection, there's likelihood it might be a T. Thing is, they got Cobe Jones and Rasheed Walker, maybe the team's not optimistic about those two.

Also not sure if they're thinking of trading Bakhtiari. But if they're thinking of that, a T would be more likely.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

a year ago

#15

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

I wasn't high on Chris Olave going into the draft last season. I thought the Saints overpaid for the opportunity to take him. I do think Watson is better than one of them though. Doubs I am not sure. He seemed to come on strong and then kind of disappeared. It'll be interesting to see preseason with Love and the boys.

I don't think WR at 13 is ideal for Packers. If they take WR, I hope to be wrong. (Usually, I am when it comes to draft analysis before draft!)

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

a year ago

#16

I don't think WR at 13 is ideal for Packers. If they take WR, I hope to be wrong. (Usually, I am when it comes to draft analysis before draft!)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I don't think so either tbh, esp a WR who's primarily a slot guy. Feels like if you're drafting a WR this high he needs to be able to do it all from inside and out.

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earthquake
Member

a year ago

#17

I don't think so either tbh, esp a WR who's primarily a slot guy. Feels like if you're drafting a WR this high he needs to be able to do it all from inside and out.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

Generally, I agree. Though if they think the Wr could be elite in the slot, and they already have their boundary guys in Watson and Doubs, I could see the logic in it. It worked with Jennings/Jones/Nelson as the boundary guys and Cobb in the slot. Though Cobb was a late 2nd round pick, so maybe that isn't a great example.

Edit: I just read Kevin's post about the hamstring injury. At 13 that's gonna be a hard no from me.

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wpr
Preferred Member

a year ago

#18

Originally Posted by: earthquake

I don;t want a "slot receiver" taken at 14 when you can get one that is "slightly" less talented in the 3rd round. There are better ways to spend your draft capital.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

a year ago

#19

I'm feeling this Jaxon kid is inevitible and trying to talk myself into it. I see he was the Rose Bowl MVP so I went hmm how he do in that game? It was still over a year ago, but Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson did not play in that game and Jaxon still lit it up.

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beast
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a year ago

#20

ProFootballFocus has less than 15 WR's in the top 100.

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Gute has shown he likes oversized WRs.

With that said, I think Johnson, Tillman, Rice and Mingo fit what Gute likes. I think Rice would SO be a Ted Thompson type WR. For the Packers scheme, I like Mingo as he's a large slot WR and this scheme usually has a good large slot WR or receiving TE, I'm expecting Gute to grab a receiver (WR or TE) that can play the middle of the field well.

Wilson might be a top 100 player when healthy, but he couldn't stay healthy in college and plays a very physical style of football, so I think he'll drop a good bit due to lack of available in college.

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