buckeyepackfan
2 years ago

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My gosh, what is wrong with you? Coming in after back-to-back NFL MVP QB's, one who is in Hall of Fame and the other very likely to be in Hall of Fame, you have Packers trading UP to get WR, then also picking several TE's? Welcome to NFL ... here's a heavy dose of PRESSURE.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Something I noticed over the last week was how the TE's were dropping out of the 1st round.
Moving up to 11 would give The Packers the chance  to pick a top Position player depending how the draft falls.

J. Love will be fine!!
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wpr
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2 years ago

Please stop trying to create a problem... 

Post June savings would save no cash, only cap space.

Extending Gary would cost cash, but because of NFL cap rules of signing bonuses, would actually free up cap space.

So no, you don't need to save cap space to complete an additional action that would also save cap space.

Both actions free up cap space, so I don't understand why you keep asking as if they would have opposite effects to cancel each other out.

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​​​​​​You do realize how crazy this is, right?

You're asking if you can push cap forward, just so you can later move it back... if you want to free 2024 cap space then just don't do anything, no need to create extra work.

But sure, you can make four left turns just so you can make four rights turns, and have absolutely nothing change but waste a lot of gas and/or paper.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Do you realize UPS trucks almost never make left hand turns?  It's inefficient and wastes gas.

UPS trucks almost never take left-hand turns.
By favoring right-hand turns at all times – unless a left is unavoidable – the carrier saves millions of gallons of fuel each year, and avoids emissions equivalent to over 20,000 passenger cars.


CNN 
 
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beast
2 years ago

Do you realize UPS trucks almost never make left hand turns?  It's inefficient and wastes gas.


CNN 
 

Originally Posted by: wpr 

No, mainly because I see them make a left all the time out of my neighbors driveways.

I know USPS try to avoid left turns for that reason through and try to avoid going in reverse due to the safe hazards of not being able to see what the heck is behind you (also to save fuel there as well).
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Please stop trying to create a problem... 

Post June savings would save no cash, only cap space.

Extending Gary would cost cash, but because of NFL cap rules of signing bonuses, would actually free up cap space.

So no, you don't need to save cap space to complete an additional action that would also save cap space.

Both actions free up cap space, so I don't understand why you keep asking as if they would have opposite effects to cancel each other out.

​​
 

​​​​​​You do realize how crazy this is, right?

You're asking if you can push cap forward, just so you can later move it back... if you want to free 2024 cap space then just don't do anything, no need to create extra work.

But sure, you can make four left turns just so you can make four rights turns, and have absolutely nothing change but waste a lot of gas and/or paper.

Originally Posted by: beast 



You were more fun when you realized your way of thinking wasn't the only way of thinking. The good ole days ... 😁

 
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dfosterf
2 years ago
TV schedule impact. Hard Knocks impact. Jets land Rodgers, lots of Jets games scheduled. Woody seems averse to Hard Knocks, but this is mostly because he inherited his money and is stupid, but that's a whole different subject. If the Jets don't do this trade in the draft, it's time to truly open the market to all teams, and I don't believe the Packers have done so yet. Jets have so much to gain as regards franchise interest, but as their fans are wont to say, Jets being Jets. I bitched instantly when Aaron made his 90% retired comment, everyone else including Woody picked up on that eventually, apparently...
As a fan of this team since around 1960, fuck the Jets if they do not pull the trigger during the draft. Open it up to all teams, publicly, post draft, simultaneously explaining that Mr. Rodgers did it to himself (apparently) with his scaring his potential suitor. The only scenario going forward that is unacceptable is cutting Aaron. Do not cave, I say. As far as actual money goes, the ONLY team in the NFL that would care less about actual cash would be the Packers. It ain't any individuals money, and as everyone on earth would point out to the stockholders, there is no true accountability for money unless it got so tight as to be an existential threat, like a nuclear exchange with China or some shit... even then Packer fans would still go to the game, probably with dosimeters in the pro shop. 
Bottom line. Hold firm. Fuck the Jets fuck the media. 

Not sorry for the rant
I'm dug in. 
beast
2 years ago

You were more fun when you realized your way of thinking wasn't the only way of thinking. The good ole days ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I agree, though in this case, it's not a way of thinking, but your unwilling to understand how the NFL systems work.

For your assumptions to be correct,

1) the Packers would have to be willing to work harder, to purposely put themselves in a much worse spot. 

2) Players would have to accept an extension will little to no signing bonus.


But yes, just for the sake of your theory, let's assume the Packers are purposely going to put themselves in a worse spot and players agent will refuse a signing bonus, purposely putting their player in a worse spot. 

 
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

I agree, though in this case, it's not a way of thinking, but your unwilling to understand how the NFL systems work.

For your assumptions to be correct,

1) the Packers would have to be willing to work harder, to purposely put themselves in a much worse spot. 

2) Players would have to accept an extension will little to no signing bonus.


But yes, just for the sake of your theory, let's assume the Packers are purposely going to put themselves in a worse spot and players agent will refuse a signing bonus, purposely putting their player in a worse spot.  

Originally Posted by: beast 


What NFL system am I not understanding? What did I say that was factually incorrect? Were my figures wrong? I'll deflect blame to Over The Cap on that! 

As for assumptions, the only one assuming here is you and quite honestly I'm getting a little sick of you repeatedly talking down to me like I'm an idiot. I'm just trying to have conversations, discussions and if you notice, that's what a forum is intended for. If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion, that's cool, just find a different topic. They're free. No charge.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Something I noticed over the last week was how the TE's were dropping out of the 1st round.
Moving up to 11 would give The Packers the chance  to pick a top Position player depending how the draft falls.

J. Love will be fine!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Honestly I'd rather trade down. 

The talent in this draft it pretty even from after the top 10, down to the beginning of the 4th. All those players are on a roughly fairly similar level. Trading up gets you fewer picks in that range, although it gets you first dibs. I'd rather trade down and get more of those picks, even if it puts me further back in line. 
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Rockmolder
2 years ago
I'm going to go out on a limb and call this bs.

It's about as substantial as Rodgers going to the Colts because he's close with McAfee, Rodgers going to the 49ers because he's from Cali and Rodgers going to the Lions because winning gets boring.





 
wpr
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2 years ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and call this bs.

It's about as substantial as Rodgers going to the Colts because he's close with McAfee, Rodgers going to the 49ers because he's from Cali and Rodgers going to the Lions because winning gets boring.





 

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



More than likely you are right Rocky. Personally I don't care if it is true or not. I want the Jets to THINK it is true in order to bump Rodger's value a little.

BTW, it's good to see you back on the board.

Is "BS" a term that's used in the Netherlands/Europe as well? Or do you have a better expression?
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