nerdmann
2 years ago




“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
earthquake
2 years ago

Who's the better QB guru? 
A: Mike McCarthy
B: Matt Le Fleur

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This is hard to say, outside of Rodgers, the only QB McCarthy developed that had any success would be Matt Flynn - and that was mostly as a backup. Dak Prescot was an established starter and has done OK in his system. Cooper Rush has looked surprisingly good in his system as well. I guess he had Alex Smith for what, one year? That's probably too short to form a meaningful opinion there.

MLF has only worked with Rodgers as a starter during his time as a head coach. So his grade would be incomplete. Ask me again in 5-10 years.

There's this other guy though, named Mike Holmgren, that worked with Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, and Matt Hasselbeck, who all went to at least one Super Bowl. His system also developed a guy named Andy Reid, who knows a thing or two about QBs and Super Bowls.


Who's system is better?
A: Mike McCarthy
B: Matt LeFleur



Given that McCarthy has won a Super Bowl and MFL has to this point done about as much as McCarthy in his post Super Bowl years with the same HOF QB, I would say McCarthy gets the nod. Both have some impressive regular season performances to look at coupled with post-season collapses. MLF's sample size is significantly smaller. Again, ask me in 5-10 years.

But gun to my head, I'm going with Holmgren over both of these guys. Holmgren got to a Super Bowl twice with Favre and once with Hasselbeck.


Who has better measurables?
A: Aaron
B: Jordan



Everyone knows fat, slow Tom Brady has the best measurables of all time. For real though, this is irrelevant. Jamarcus Russell had better measurements than Brock Purdy (probably, I'm too lazy to fact-check anything related to Jamarcus Russell).

I know all of this was rhetorical, but I gotta have something to do while we wait to see what sort of draft picks the Jets relinquish.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

This is hard to say, outside of Rodgers, the only QB McCarthy developed that had any success would be Matt Flynn - and that was mostly as a backup. Dak Prescot was an established starter and has done OK in his system. Cooper Rush has looked surprisingly good in his system as well. I guess he had Alex Smith for what, one year? That's probably too short to form a meaningful opinion there.

MLF has only worked with Rodgers as a starter during his time as a head coach. So his grade would be incomplete. Ask me again in 5-10 years.

There's this other guy though, named Mike Holmgren, that worked with Joe Montana, Steve Young, Brett Favre, and Matt Hasselbeck, who all went to at least one Super Bowl. His system also developed a guy named Andy Reid, who knows a thing or two about QBs and Super Bowls.



Given that McCarthy has won a Super Bowl and MFL has to this point done about as much as McCarthy in his post Super Bowl years with the same HOF QB, I would say McCarthy gets the nod. Both have some impressive regular season performances to look at coupled with post-season collapses. MLF's sample size is significantly smaller. Again, ask me in 5-10 years.

But gun to my head, I'm going with Holmgren over both of these guys. Holmgren got to a Super Bowl twice with Favre and once with Hasselbeck.



Everyone knows fat, slow Tom Brady has the best measurables of all time. For real though, this is irrelevant. Jamarcus Russell had better measurements than Brock Purdy (probably, I'm too lazy to fact-check anything related to Jamarcus Russell).

I know all of this was rhetorical, but I gotta have something to do while we wait to see what sort of draft picks the Jets relinquish.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



Remember Holmgren was robbed of that SB, Seahawks v Pittsburgh.  But he's not relevant, because didn't develop Aaron or Jordan. 

The question is, can Jordan be as good as Aaron? 

McCarthy wona SB, but he's thought of as a big dumb guy lol. Matt's known as being smart. But, fair enough. 

Always loved Holmgren though. I think what killed him is getting GM power. Then trying that "Bill Parcells" thing, where he was overseeing the HC. Fuck that shit, if you're gonna be head coach be head coach. You gotta be all in. Pity he won't get another shot. 

Loved Holmgren's WCO.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Now, I’m not really sure what the deal is with Aaron Rodgers — what is upsetting him. In my opinion, you can’t be in a better place. Everything there is geared toward the player. Everything they do is about the player. That’s the greatness of that franchise.

- Ron Wolf : May 2011
Zero2Cool
a year ago

Aaron Rodgers told Aubrey Marcus that everyone thought he was done in 2019 and said "so did I", so pretty safe to conclude Aaron Rodgers thought he was done.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



This was kind of random, but actually here's what he said.

"I didn't have my best year playing [in 2019], and there's probably people that think I'm done. I thought I was done before I became COVID MVP twice." - Aaron Rodgers → Source 



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