Zero2Cool
2 years ago
You ever ask your self why the Green Bay Packers are so eager to move on from a four time NFL MVP who one season removed from back to back MVP's and one season removed from three 13 win seasons? Doesn't that seem kind of strange? Are the Packers front office that ignorant or is there something else going on?

Reports were that the Packers were ecstatic when Jordan Love pick was made. Are they really that high on the kid?

What do you think is gong on over there in ole 1265?
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buckeyepackfan
2 years ago

Things I read about J. Love as a rookie going into the 2020 draft.

A poor man's Patrick Mahones.
As high of a ceiling of any of the rookie qb's in the 2020 draft.
Best scenario is to be able to sit and learn, not ready to be a 1st year starter.
Will be the last qb drafted in the 1st round.

So , disregarding all of the "talking heads" in the media and all the "online GM's ", I think Gute and Lefleur (Murphy excluded) were and are happy with the pick.

Only time will tell if J. Love is Qb1 for now and the future 
I copied this quote from ML about J. Love

He's a really good athlete," LaFleur said. "He's able to get out on the edge and create off-schedule, and that's something that can make it hard for the defense to defend against. He's a natural thrower. I thought he showed fearlessness on tape, the ability to stand in there and maintain poise and confidence when things were falling apart around him. That's a prerequisite for playing in this league. You've got to have that ability where you're not going to flinch under pressure. Demeanor-wise, he's really even keel, which is good. He's pretty intelligent. His recall of what he did at Utah State really stood out when we had him on a Zoom interview. I thought he handled himself well in the interview. And he took accountability. Not everything we showed him was great. We gave him a lot of 'What happened here?' and he owned it every time it was a bad play."
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dfosterf
2 years ago
All I've heard is Aaron's version. I'm waiting for the Green Bay version. Pat McAfee is effectively a shill for Aaron's perspectives. I submit the question cannot be answered yet.
2 years ago
They are in a box.

As Peabody said to Sherman ...."Set the way back machine to 2020." 

They could not have known  that at Rodgers age, he was going to put those years together...they thought he was going to be done.  So they drafted the kid thinking in 3 years Rodgers would be gone without knowing Rodgers was going to be reinvigorated and play so well.  Then they gave Rodgers too much money, and now they are caught between a rock and a hard-place.

They had probably projected that  money they were paying Rodgers now might have been spent on the pieces they are missing, but Rodgers great play in 20 and 21 changed all that.

With the benefit of 2020 hindsight (get it, 2020 draft...oh my, am I clever) i.e. if they knew Rodgers was going to be that strong in 20 and 21, they wouldn't have drafted Love, although they can and will never admit that.

They must realize that they simply don't have the roster to compete with the top NFC teams (much less AFC teams) ergo have to punt 12, even though there may be consider gas left in the Rodgers tank.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

All I've heard is Aaron's version. I'm waiting for the Green Bay version. Pat McAfee is effectively a shill for Aaron's perspectives. I submit the question cannot be answered yet.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Gutekunst spoke today. Fascinating. Doesn't sound like he's taking the shit anymore. 
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beast
2 years ago
Rodgers said he was 90% going to retire before coming out of the darkness and hearing from players that Packers are shopping him, after he wouldn't return the Packers calls.

They drafted Love to start... I said well before Love's draft he would take three years to develop (I thought the Patriots would be drafting him), and now that he appears to have finally developed to be a low starter, he needs game experience to get to the next level in his development.


This isn't about Rodgers, this is about the future, and Rodgers (planning on retiring) isn't part of it. They need Love to develop, or find a new QB elsewhere.





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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Rodgers said he was 90% going to retire before coming out of the darkness and hearing from players that Packers are shopping him, after he wouldn't return the Packers calls.

They drafted Love to start... I said well before Love's draft he would take three years to develop (I thought the Patriots would be drafting him), and now that he appears to have finally developed to be a low starter, he needs game experience to get to the next level in his development.

This isn't about Rodgers, this is about the future, and Rodgers (planning on retiring) isn't part of it. They need Love to develop, or find a new QB elsewhere.​​​​​​

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Everything is about Aaron Rodgers, just ask him, he'll tell you! I'm kidding, I don't think he's THAT arrogant.  

You said well before the draft that it would take Jordan Love three years to develop. Buddy. Pal. Comrade.  That's basically what is said about every rookie. It takes three years. Yes, there are some who come out of a cannon, but generally, it takes 2-3 years. 🙂 

Nah, that's cool if you thought that about Jordan Love. I agree, but I also feel that way about every rookie so my sentiments are baseless and useless. 

I do think part of it is around Aaron Rodgers though. I think his play has dipped and I said that during his last MVP season too. I feel Davante Adams bailed Rodgers and Packers out. Adams left and his numbers were about the same. Packers? Rodgers? Big drop. I think this is more or less the perfect storm. Jordan Love is coming into his own, it's time for him, and Rodgers is on the downstroke. Also, it really seems Rodgers hasn't wanted to be here for a few years, BUT didn't want the fans turning on him. As I said many weeks ago in a beautifully written post that no one read ... sometimes you have to love someone enough to let them go. It is time.
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