Zero2Cool
a year ago
In Brett Favre's final six passes as a Packer:
He went 2-6 for 12 yards, concluding in a game-sealing, season-ending INT at Lambeau Field.

In Aaron Rodgers' final six passes this year:
He went 2-6 for 12 yards, concluding in a game-sealing, season-ending INT at Lambeau Field.
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nerdmann
a year ago

The Packers gave up so hard on Aaron Rodgers that they signed him to a new contract with over $100 million gaurunteed. It's almost like they thought Aaron Rodgers was a much better QB than Jordan Love when they gave him all that money, and wanted him to continue playing.

What the Raiders did with Derek Carr is what it looks like when a team gives up on a QB. What the Browns did with Baker Mayfield and the Rams did with Jared Goff could be considered examples of giving up. Paying a guy boatloads of money to stick around while you figure out if the backup is going to develop... That's something else. 

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



Carr isn't using his position to create a media tornado against the team. Holding them hostage, demanding sacrifice.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Carr isn't using his position to create a media tornado against the team. Holding them hostage, demanding sacrifice.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Aaron Rodgers isn't using his position to create a media tornado against the team, nor is he holding team hostage or demanding sacrifice. 

When Favre was QB, you did the same bullshit about him in favor of Rodgers. Once Rodgers led Packers to Super Bowl, you turned on him and did the same ignorant rambling bullshit. When Jordan Love leads the Packers to Super Bowl win, within 2-3 years you'll just rinse and repeat the same stupid comments. Your act is tired. It's worn out. It's predictable. You gotta start throwing us some fastballs because your curveball is getting smack the F out of the park! 😁
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dfosterf
a year ago
The fact that the Packers signed Aaron to that record contract doesn't necessarily disprove what Nerdmann said. I would say that there was a decent amount of evidence at the time of Love being drafted to justify making a move against Rodgers. I personally hated that draft pick, still do to this day, mostly because we still don't know if Jordan Love is any good, coupled with what we should have done with that pick, coupled with we chewed up his rookie contract discount,  imo.  We have seen a very small sample that is encouraging, but we have also seen that Love was just plain not good enough in the eyes of the coaches (and anyone else that has eyes) to supplant Rodgers. That pick, at that time, has shown to be a failure at this point in time. Nerdmann's characterization of the Packers giving up on Rodgers is a bit biased and too binary, but certainly a legitimate perspective, regardless of the decisions the Packers made subsequent to that pick. I get it when some will say that in retrospect it was wise to take Love and develop him, but I'm not one of them. The Packers took their shot for the last couple of years, trying to hold it all together, and failed. It is what it is, and it doesn't look good. Personally, I'm processing a concept where we maximizing the ability for cap relief for 2024, instead of clinging to a hope and a prayer for 2023, starting with loading up the offense in this draft. Joe Barry shouldn't get shit this off-season, he used up all his promotional free chips as far as I'm concerned, admittedlly emotional about his failings. I hope Rodgers is traded. What Nerdmann (and Dhazer) have said on this subject has been a bit myopic, imo,  but not necessarily wrong. 
 
olds70supreme
a year ago
People get way too hung up on the soap-opera drama of "the Love pick must mean that the Packers gave up on Arod".  To me it looked and still looks like a risk mitigation measure.

The team (and Rodgers) were uncertain about his future, retirement plans, etc... meaning that the team was at risk of not having a starting quarterback in the near future.  To mitigate that risk, they drafted a player that they saw potential in, so that regardless of when Arod was no longer the quarterback that they had a qualified candidate already up to speed for a smooth transition.  There are multiple signficant factors in play that neither the team nor Rodgers were in control of (decline due to age, serious injury, etc...).  Given that, it doesn't seem unreasonable to reduce future risk - at the same time it doesn't indicate squat about whether they wanted to move on or not.

That seems like the simplest explanation to me, and still makes the most sense.  Most of the other conversation is driven by youtubers, podcasters, media figures, etc... who get clicks/views by exciting information.  "Established company establishes succession plan" is not going to fly when competing with "Aaron Furious with Packers Brass for Love Pick - Click Here To See What He Does Next".  Most seem to be simply parroting each other rather than giving unique analysis, and the significant conflict of interest means what they say should be met with heavy skepticism rather than picking/choosing which ones.  

Whether they want to move on from him or not doesn't matter - what matters is how the team performs in the next few seasons after they inevitably do part ways.
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nerdmann
a year ago

The Packers gave up so hard on Aaron Rodgers that they signed him to a new contract with over $100 million gaurunteed. It's almost like they thought Aaron Rodgers was a much better QB than Jordan Love when they gave him all that money, and wanted him to continue playing.

What the Raiders did with Derek Carr is what it looks like when a team gives up on a QB. What the Browns did with Baker Mayfield and the Rams did with Jared Goff could be considered examples of giving up. Paying a guy boatloads of money to stick around while you figure out if the backup is going to develop... That's something else. 

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



As I've said. Love wasn't ready. Then you got Aaron media bombing the team as soon as the draft starts with all these TRADE TO DENVER rumors. Constant media strafing all offseason. Every day new speculation leads the sports news. Hostage.
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