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Zero2Cool
a year ago
Let's assume Aaron Rodgers wants to continue playing and the Packers want to move on to the next QB. 

Lots of salary cap dancing and contract shenanigans must go down, but heck, this might be a win-win-win. Win for Rodgers. Win for Packers. Win for Raiders.

Packers get
Raiders 2023 1st Round (7th Overall)
Raiders 2023 3rd Round
Raiders 2024 2nd Round (can go up to 1st round)

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Future Hall of Fame Quarterback Aaron Rodgers
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nerdmann
a year ago
Stidham looks like he can ball.
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a year ago
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a year ago
I find it hard to believe that AR12 has much trade value unless he is willing to:
adjust his salary to a more team friendly deal.
agrees to play for at least 3 more seasons.
shows that 2022 was the fluke and 2020-2021 is what he will look like in 2023.
he is healthy.
 
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nerdmann
a year ago



“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
a year ago

I find it hard to believe that AR12 has much trade value unless he is willing to:
adjust his salary to a more team friendly deal.
agrees to play for at least 3 more seasons.
shows that 2022 was the fluke and 2020-2021 is what he will look like in 2023.
he is healthy. 

Originally Posted by: wpr 



The new team would be on the hook for about $16 million in 2023. I'm not sure about 2024, but I would think that is attractive to a team that has a good/great defense along with a good/great running game.
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bboystyle
a year ago
yea only way Rodgers doesnt play for GB in 2023 is if he retires or they reconstruct his contract to trade him. There's really no other options. 
Zero2Cool
a year ago

yea only way Rodgers doesnt play for GB in 2023 is if he retires or they reconstruct his contract to trade him. There's really no other options. 

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



The team that trades for him is on the hook for about $16 million dollars. Does that fact change your thoughts at all? It did for me.
 
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dfosterf
a year ago
If the scenario envisioned is 16 million for the new team, that part is a no-brainer for the team that gets him. The problem is the draft pick compensation. I don't see a team giving up that kind of draft pick compensation for him.  I suppose a significant percentage of Packer fans sincerely believe the thumb caused the rather precipitous decline, but alot of people  league-wide think he has hit the wall and is no longer worth all that much, and many think he's washed-up completely. It only takes one team to pull the trigger, two or more is better, but zero is also within the realm of possibilities. One thing I really hope happens is that the front office works up the stones to get a definitive commitment out of him, one way or another, and do it on the organization's terms, time-wise, period. Who knows, if he commits to retirement or a trade, for example,  we just might be looking for a qb in the 1st round of the draft.
Zero2Cool
a year ago

If the scenario envisioned is 16 million for the new team, that part is a no-brainer for the team that gets him. The problem is the draft pick compensation. I don't see a team giving up that kind of draft pick compensation for him.  I suppose a significant percentage of Packer fans sincerely believe the thumb caused the rather precipitous decline, but alot of people  league-wide think he has hit the wall and is no longer worth all that much, and many think he's washed-up completely. It only takes one team to pull the trigger, two or more is better, but zero is also within the realm of possibilities. One thing I really hope happens is that the front office works up the stones to get a definitive commitment out of him, one way or another, and do it on the organization's terms, time-wise, period. Who knows, if he commits to retirement or a trade, for example,  we just might be looking for a qb in the 1st round of the draft.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



He's 39 years old and won MVP two of the last three years. He had thumb boo-boo. He had rookie WR's. He had rib injuries. And played through it all. If I'm his agent, that's what I'm saying, lol. 

A team that has a good to great defense and a serviceable to good running game. I could see them dropping a 1st rounder and another pick for him. And as I've made it clear. I think Packers have to love Aaron enough to let him go. It is time. Heck, I think a good portion of us thought after 2021 it was time. 

Then again, the Jets only gave the Packers a 4th rounder that morphed into 3rd rounder for Brett Favre after a 13-3 season. 

Honestly, as long as we get something for Aaron Rodgers, I am good. I wouldn't be happy if they just released him, but I'd get it and get over it. 

I still say if he wants to continue playing, you ask him what AFC team/s he wants to join and you start the trade talks. I just really feel it is time he goes one way, and Packers go another. This isn't disparaging Rodgers. SUPER THANKFUL for the many amazing years. I just really feel it is time. Let him go to another team with that chip on his shoulder that the Packers didn't want him. Let him light it up for a year and then retire. He's always going to be remembered as a Green Bay Packers player. No different than Paul Hornug, Jim Taylor, Curly Lambeau, Vince Lombardi, etc ...
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beast (2h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
beast (2h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime
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Zero2Cool (3h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is
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Zero2Cool (20h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.
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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
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buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
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