Cheesey
2 years ago
My opinion is that Rodgers is NOT the problem. It's the FACT that he's pressured every time he tries to pass. Yes, I'm sure there are times a WR gets open. But by that time, Rodgers is either running for his life, or is already being knocked down.
It's hard to throw the ball when you are on your back.
And how many drops were there yesterday? I didn't count them, but I know there were WAY too many. Any one of them could have kept a drive going and may have ended up in points. This team isn't good enough to overcome those kinds of mistakes.
All of our current WRs can't be depended on to catch anything, even a perfect throw.
Again, that's where Adams was exceptional. A ball didn't have to be a "perfect" throw, and he would find a way to catch it.
These guys get it in their hands, and still can't catch it.
They get hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions of dollars to catch the ball. Yet they can't constantly do so.
Then you have Amari, who muffs a punt, and does very little on offense. That muff, gave the Washington team great field position. Yet our D held them to a field goal. They did their job. Now, take away that "free" 3 points, and what would the score be? And who knows, maybe our offense would have scored points on that drive. And how do you think our defense felt? They just held them to a punt, and now had to go back on a short field and hold them to 3 points. Which they did.
That has to be defeating to them.
And all it takes is one bad O-lineman that can't pass block. That can kill your passing game.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

It's the FACT that he's pressured every time he tries to pass. Yes, I'm sure there are times a WR gets open. But by that time, Rodgers is either running for his life, or is already being knocked down.

It's hard to throw the ball when you are on your back.



So tired of the excuses for Aaron Rodgers. Even Tony Dungy called out Aaron Rodgers last night because even Tony Dungy sees WR's getting open. We just watched a game where Taylor 'freaking' Heinicke had someone in his face 29 times and yet he still delivers the ball to the players. Enough of the excuses. Sick of it. Aaron Rodgers is playing BAD FOOTBALL.

Why is it we can lie and say he's pressured every time he tries to pass, but then say there are only times WR gets open? Seriously, how flip flop of facts can you get? The blatant stubbornness to see the elephant in the room is mind boggling.

MY OPINION IS THAT AARON RODGERS DOESN'T TRUST THE PLAYERS AROUND HIM. And until he pulls his head out of his ass, this team will not go anywhere except a higher draft selection.

And if his thumb is why he's not under center, then give the guy a week to rest so he can recover.

I will say this. It is hard to throw when you're on your back. However, Aaron Rodgers is not that QB, that was Taylor Heinicke on Sunday. And the kid made plays that our back to back MVP couldn't or wouldn't.

And for those saying Aaron Jones needs more touches. Jones touched the ball 40% of the snaps.

It's not one thing. It's not the QB. It's not the RB. It's not the touches. It's an entire team playing like a rudderless boat.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

And how many drops were there yesterday? I didn't count them, but I know there were WAY too many. Any one of them could have kept a drive going and may have ended up in points. This team isn't good enough to overcome those kinds of mistakes.
All of our current WRs can't be depended on to catch anything, even a perfect throw.
Again, that's where Adams was exceptional. A ball didn't have to be a "perfect" throw, and he would find a way to catch it.
These guys get it in their hands, and still can't catch it.
They get hundreds of thousands of dollars to millions of dollars to catch the ball. Yet they can't constantly do so.
Then you have Amari, who muffs a punt, and does very little on offense. That muff, gave the Washington team great field position. Yet our D held them to a field goal. They did their job. Now, take away that "free" 3 points, and what would the score be? And who knows, maybe our offense would have scored points on that drive. And how do you think our defense felt? They just held them to a punt, and now had to go back on a short field and hold them to 3 points. Which they did.
That has to be defeating to them.
And all it takes is one bad O-lineman that can't pass block. That can kill your passing game.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Packers had five drops. It's insane. The QB can't hit WR's in the hands. The WR's get open and then have to make super athletic plays just to get hands on the ball. Then fans bash slam insult them for not 'being open' when they are doing insane crap just to get hands on the ball an then blasted for "drops".

Amari Rodgers is not a returner. Put him in on offense and use him. It's not like we have many options.

Packers should just punt. The entire offense is a floundering failure of crapola on a stick. Only thing the offense does "well" is OL run blocking. And that's being generous.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago
My rambling rants aside, we stinks.

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Cheesey
2 years ago

Packers had five drops. It's insane. The QB can't hit WR's in the hands. The WR's get open and then have to make super athletic plays just to get hands on the ball. Then fans bash slam insult them for not 'being open' when they are doing insane crap just to get hands on the ball an then blasted for "drops".

Amari Rodgers is not a returner. Put him in on offense and use him. It's not like we have many options.

Packers should just punt. The entire offense is a floundering failure of crapola on a stick. Only thing the offense does "well" is OL run blocking. And that's being generous.

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Zero, I saw plenty of times WRs had BOTH hands on the ball. Yet couldn't come up with a catch. Aren't these guys PROS that are supposed to catch a ball when they get both hands on it? Those 5 measly drops could have led to long drives that scored points AND kept our tired defense off the field.
When your defense has to spend two thirds of the game on the field, not only are they exhausted, but it has to be demoralizing as well.
These "pros" are supposed to be the best of the best. Yet they can't catch the ball? Like I said, those drops probably cost us the game. Add to that the fact that Amari Rodgers should never been on the field returning punts, and why our coach couldn't see that, after all the miscues he's had, is beyond stupid.
Again, doing the same things over and over and expecting different results is INSANE.
MLF looks like a deer caught in the headlights in his post game interviews. 3 losses in a row, and no idea what to do. He's like the Capton of the Titanic. "I'm not gonna let a little ice stop me!"
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Zero, I saw plenty of times WRs had BOTH hands on the ball. Yet couldn't come up with a catch. Aren't these guys PROS that are supposed to catch a ball when they get both hands on it? Those 5 measly drops could have led to long drives that scored points AND kept our tired defense off the field.
When your defense has to spend two thirds of the game on the field, not only are they exhausted, but it has to be demoralizing as well.
These "pros" are supposed to be the best of the best. Yet they can't catch the ball? Like I said, those drops probably cost us the game. Add to that the fact that Amari Rodgers should never been on the field returning punts, and why our coach couldn't see that, after all the miscues he's had, is beyond stupid.
Again, doing the same things over and over and expecting different results is INSANE.
MLF looks like a deer caught in the headlights in his post game interviews. 3 losses in a row, and no idea what to do. He's like the Capton of the Titanic. "I'm not gonna let a little ice stop me!"

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Look I am with you. Insane athletic move to get hands on the ball or not, you freaking catch the freaking ball! As a receiver, it is literally you freaking job description!!

I think Amari Rodgers has five fumbles and like 7 receptions in his career. Maybe the kid cannot return? Maybe he should just used on offense as jet sweep guy and short pass guy or something? He looked better at WR (energy wise) than the other clown show dancers. He just looked electric out there. That deep pass, if Rodgers throws a better ball, maybe it's TD? That said, I still think Amari should have caught that one even though it was insanely tough. Again, it is literally your job description to catch the ball.

I started a thread about this, but yeah, maybe LaFleur is great at designing plays, but not good at calling plays? How many times has he challenged a play saying it was emotional and he was told not to? Have him draw plays up, but have someone else call them? I dunno. I just think we stinks though.


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