Zero2Cool
2 years ago

That being said, there are times when I wish Joe Berry would throw in more hyper aggressive plays... not for an entire game, but a change up call or change up series... like just for oen set up 3 downs, go heavy blitz and man on man coverage... if they get a big play, then go back.

Originally Posted by: beast 


Is there some inside joke I don't know about as to why people keep saying Berry instead of his proper surname of Barry? 🤷‍♂️



Vikings knew to get 18 away from 23. Others have noticed.

From Doug Farrar -- Matt LaFleur brought this up after the game, and it really showed up on the field. Kevin O'Connell did a masterful job aligning and motioning Justin Jefferson away from Jaire Alexander in the Packers' zone-heavy defense. Based on my charting, Green Bay defenders vs. Jefferson:
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Is there some inside joke I don't know about as to why people keep saying Berry instead of his proper surname of Barry? 🤷‍♂️



Vikings knew to get 18 away from 23. Others have noticed.

From Doug Farrar -- Matt LaFleur brought this up after the game, and it really showed up on the field. Kevin O'Connell did a masterful job aligning and motioning Justin Jefferson away from Jaire Alexander in the Packers' zone-heavy defense. Based on my charting, Green Bay defenders vs. Jefferson:
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



We didn't lose pn defense or ST. We shit ourselves on Offense.

If our defense can hold teams to 17 or 20 (not including points they were handed by turnovers,) I'll take that every time.
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all_about_da_packers
2 years ago

We didn't lose pn defense or ST. We shit ourselves on Offense.

If our defense can hold teams to 17 or 20 (not including points they were handed by turnovers,) I'll take that every time.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Were we watching different games? We didn't lose on defense?

Um, at halftime Jefferson accounted for almost 91% of the Vikings yards in the air. He had both Vikings TDs. By the end of the game, he accounted for almost 67% of the Vikings passing yards. If the D could contain Jefferson at all (not an easy task, but something a self-proclaimed "elite" capable D should be able to do), the Packers are in the game with a chance to win.

Perhaps you don't think this D is capable of being elite -- which is fine. But if you think this D has upgraded itself, and has the talent to be a problem, then the performance they turned in last night is not acceptable. Even if it was "fine" by NFL standards, we've known for months that this team was going to rely on its Defense playing at a high level. If you have the coaches professing the ability of the Defense to be elite, you simply cannot have the D play like it did yesterday.

Also, the O clearly left 14 points on the field -- a drop by Watson that would've been a TD and the fourth-and-goal stop on the 1 yard-line. Better execution gets us to 21 points total for the game -- not at all indicative of a "shitty" O.

I'm sure playing the Vikings with a new scheme the first time had an impact on the numerous breakdowns on O and D. But I don't think the talent gap between the Vikings and Packers is that big, and I'm confident the Packers' coaching is better. This team should be fine, but the D needs to show it can be elite.
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nerdmann
2 years ago
D gave up what, 17 points?

D held Vikes to FGs on those turnovers, correct? I'd have to go back and review.

Hold teams to 20 points per week, we should be able to win a lot of games.
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Dulak
2 years ago
I used to enjoy watching harris and woodson going man 2 man and doing really well - miss those days.

Dont matter how much we paid these guys if they dont stop the opp. passing game then we lose.
Cheesey
2 years ago
Being that it was painfully obvious that zone wasn't working, why not try man coverage?
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The Packers coaching staff should realize that. I guess they aren't as smart as we thought.
What have you got to lose when you are getting creamed, and what you are doing isn't working?
I mean, it can't be any worse then it already is.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Being that it was painfully obvious that zone wasn't working, why not try man coverage?
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The Packers coaching staff should realize that. I guess they aren't as smart as we thought.
What have you got to lose when you are getting creamed, and what you are doing isn't working?
I mean, it can't be any worse then it already is.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



They tried man coverage 15 snaps and 11 of them snaps got beat pretty soundly. I just saw it on the Tweeter.

Problem wasn't the scheme. It was the execution by the players. Coaches can only do so much. It'll be interesting to see how we rebound. Err, IF we rebound lol
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Being that it was painfully obvious that zone wasn't working, why not try man coverage?
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The Packers coaching staff should realize that. I guess they aren't as smart as we thought.
What have you got to lose when you are getting creamed, and what you are doing isn't working?
I mean, it can't be any worse then it already is.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


Giving up 17 points, not including points off turnovers, isn't exactly getting creamed. Just sayin.

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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Giving up 17 points, not including points off turnovers, isn't exactly getting creamed. Just sayin.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Watching that first half seeing 18 getting open over and over again. I can see how some would say we got creamed. The second half was a different story, but that first half was a nightmare for a fan to watch.
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beast
2 years ago

Is there some inside joke I don't know about as to why people keep saying Berry instead of his proper surname of Barry? 🤷‍♂️

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Nope, either typo or autocorrect error...

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