Zero2Cool
3 years ago

The Pro Football Hall of Fame announced the semifinalist list for the seniors and coaches/contributors' categories for the Class of 2023. There are 25 senior candidates and 29 coaches/contributors. The Hall’s 12-person seniors committee trimmed a list of eligible nominees to 25 semifinalists. The remaining candidates are: Ken Anderson, Maxie Baughan, Mark Clayton, Roger Craig, [more]

The Hall’s 12-person seniors committee trimmed a list of eligible nominees to 25 semifinalists. The remaining candidates are: Ken Anderson, Maxie Baughan, Mark Clayton, Roger Craig, LaVern Dilweg, Randy Gradishar, Lester Hayes, Chris Hinton, Chuck Howley, Cecil Isbell, Joe Jacoby, Billie “White Shoes” Johnson, Mike Kenn, Joe Klecko, Bob Kuechenberg, George Kunz, Jim Marshall, Clay Matthews Jr., Eddie Meador, Stanley Morgan, Tommy Nobis, Ken Riley, Sterling Sharpe, Otis Taylor and Everson Walls.

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We went from crying about Jerry Kramer, to LeRoy Butler and now it's Sterling Sharpe. It's like Packers fans think every year a Packers player should be inducted into the Hall of Fame and when it doesn't happen it's WHAT'S THE DEAL!

Looking over the list, I think these guys all have had ties with Green Bay Packers.

Mark Clayton
Cecil Isbell
Sterling Sharpe
Mike Holmgren
Lee Remmel
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earthquake
3 years ago
I think Holmgren has a good case. Won a SB with GB, went to another, and took the Seahawks to their first SB with a backup QB.

Sterling Sharpe would be a sure-fire HOF guy if he played for 3 more years. But he didn't. If we're putting very good players who got hurt early in their career in the HOF, Nick Collins belongs as well.
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earthquake
3 years ago
I'm off on a bit of a tangent now, but it's amusing to think of the number of backup QBs the Packer's have had that have gone on to win or participate in Super Bowls.

Jim McMahon backed up Favre in the 90s, though of course in the twilight of his career after he won his Super Bowl in 1985.

Kurt Warner didn't make the roster as a UDFA but went on to appear in 3 Super Bowls, winning 1. Incredible story there.

Matt Hasslebeck - lost a SB to the Stealers in 2005

Doug Pederson coached the Eagles to an improbablee Super Bowl win over the Patriots, with a backup QB to make things even more meta.

And who can forget Matt Flynn throwing 6 TDs in week 17, the game the Lions traditionally consider their Super Bowl. Flynn would go on to sign with the Seahawks, but not stick around long enough to get a ring in 2014. Here's a hilarious quote I found as I was using the google to fact check this statement (context: it was an article on where Flynn was going to sign as a FA):


I don't see this happening—the Seahawks have a quarterback that is good enough with Tarvaris Jackson, and I'd be surprised if the team brought in another veteran signal-caller to compete for the job.



Tavaris Jackson. Yeah. Que Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn.
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Pugger
3 years ago

I think Holmgren has a good case. Won a SB with GB, went to another, and took the Seahawks to their first SB with a backup QB.

Sterling Sharpe would be a sure-fire HOF guy if he played for 3 more years. But he didn't. If we're putting very good players who got hurt early in their career in the HOF, Nick Collins belongs as well.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



Terrell Davis only played 7 years and he is in. Gale Sayers also played in 7 years and he too is in. Sterling Sharp dominated when he played for 7 years. He was a 3x first team All-Pro, 5x Pro-Bowler, 3x league reception leader and 2x TD leader. Everyone in the stadium knew who was going to be targeted and he still got open and the ball. The only thing that could stop him was a neck injury. I recall his brother Shannon said at his induction ceremony that he might be the only HOF player who was the second best player in his family. I really hope he gets in this year.

Nick also played for 7 years (isn't it an odd coincidence all of these wonderful players all played for only 7 years?) but he may have to wait another 15 years before he is eligible as a senior. It might be hard for him to get in otherwise.
dhazer
3 years ago

I think Holmgren has a good case. Won a SB with GB, went to another, and took the Seahawks to their first SB with a backup QB.

Sterling Sharpe would be a sure-fire HOF guy if he played for 3 more years. But he didn't. If we're putting very good players who got hurt early in their career in the HOF, Nick Collins belongs as well.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



You do realize both Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson only played 2 more years than Sterling. Terrell Davis played six years and got in He was better than Jerry Rice in 5 of those 7 years btw and he was the 1st ever with back-to-back 100 catch seasons. And of course, you can't keep Choo Choo out ask his brother that's in the Hall.









That should say it all right there
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
Barry Sanders 10 seasons was best runner ever. Shut up.
Sterling Sharpe 7 seasons.

That's three, not two.

Fight me!!!
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Cheesey
3 years ago

Barry Sanders 10 seasons was best runner ever. Shut up.
Sterling Sharpe 7 seasons.

That's three, not two.

Fight me!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Barry Sanders was all hype. He wasn't that good. He had a great O-line, that opened up huge holes that you could drive a truck through. Anyone could run for huge gains with that line blocking.




(Just kidding if course! Watch Zero's head blow up now!😆🤪😜)
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earthquake
3 years ago

Terrell Davis only played 7 years and he is in. Gale Sayers also played in 7 years and he too is in. Sterling Sharp dominated when he played for 7 years. He was a 3x first team All-Pro, 5x Pro-Bowler, 3x league reception leader and 2x TD leader. Everyone in the stadium knew who was going to be targeted and he still got open and the ball. The only thing that could stop him was a neck injury. I recall his brother Shannon said at his induction ceremony that he might be the only HOF player who was the second best player in his family. I really hope he gets in this year.

Nick also played for 7 years (isn't it an odd coincidence all of these wonderful players all played for only 7 years?) but he may have to wait another 15 years before he is eligible as a senior. It might be hard for him to get in otherwise.

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



Terrell Davis shouldn't be in the HOF. He had 4 good-great seasons. Gale Sayers went in in 1977, his situation is not comparable.

Nick Collins played effectively 6 seasons, ~3 of which he was elite. I was happy to watch him play, but he shouldn't and won't get into the HOF. If we're gonna be homers Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, and Ahman Green should be in the HOF too.

You do realize both Barry Sanders and Calvin Johnson only played 2 more years than Sterling. Terrell Davis played six years and got in He was better than Jerry Rice in 5 of those 7 years btw and he was the 1st ever with back-to-back 100 catch seasons. And of course, you can't keep Choo Choo out ask his brother that's in the Hall.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Jerry Rice was in a different stratosphere than Sterling Sharpe (and everyone else). In 1995, an old man in his 12th year in the league, he blew away everything Sharpe had done. And then he went on to play for 10 more years. Rice is in the conversation for top 5 football players of all time, at any position. Who cares if Sharpe once caught more balls in a season than Rice. Rice played for a long time and wasn't #1 in every category every year. A lot of QBs have had better seasons than or threw more TDs in a given year than Tom Brady too. It doesn't mean much.

Sharpe is a top 10 WR in his era, which is an accomplishment, but is it HOF-worthy? Ehhhh... He certainly belongs in the Hall of Very Good.
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Pugger
3 years ago

Terrell Davis shouldn't be in the HOF. He had 4 good-great seasons. Gale Sayers went in in 1977, his situation is not comparable.

Nick Collins played effectively 6 seasons, ~3 of which he was elite. I was happy to watch him play, but he shouldn't and won't get into the HOF. If we're gonna be homers Donald Driver, Jordy Nelson, and Ahman Green should be in the HOF too.



Jerry Rice was in a different stratosphere than Sterling Sharpe (and everyone else). In 1995, an old man in his 12th year in the league, he blew away everything Sharpe had done. And then he went on to play for 10 more years. Rice is in the conversation for top 5 football players of all time, at any position. Who cares if Sharpe once caught more balls in a season than Rice. Rice played for a long time and wasn't #1 in every category every year. A lot of QBs have had better seasons than or threw more TDs in a given year than Tom Brady too. It doesn't mean much.

Sharpe is a top 10 WR in his era, which is an accomplishment, but is it HOF-worthy? Ehhhh... He certainly belongs in the Hall of Very Good.

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Jerry Rice fumbled in that playoff game in 1999.
3 years ago
Jerry Rice was terrific, but so was Sterling Sharpe, just not as terrific. He should be in.

His biggest problem is that he was not a media ass-kisser like 95% of his peers. He did not play the game and that will be held against him.

To be frank with you, other than Hudson, he was the second best Packer receiver ever, then Lofton, then Adams.
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