Beast's too early 2022 53 Mock Roster· Page 2

PackersNation
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2 years ago

Can't wait to see Tariq Carpenter playing a feature role on the STs coverage units, covering punts and kicks.

The head coach had to assign Tariq a position room, because that is how things work, but no one is expecting to see much of him at ILB this season, unless there are a rash of injuries to the ILBs. Tariq will be on the 53 one hundred percent because of special teams.

Tariq can be a star on special teams, and I am glad the coaching staff has that as his main focus going into the season.

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2 years ago

#12

Should Toure make it on the 53 it is because of ST

Originally Posted by: wpr

One would think Toure would at least get a look as a returner, but if he is indeed the 7th WR on the 53(I think he will be) it will be because of his WR skills. He is a player I am very much looking forward to seeing compete at WR in camp.

Tariq Carpenter you could say is a lock for the 53 solely based on special teams, but Toure will have to earn his stripes actually playing WR.

beast
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2 years ago

#13

Tariq can be a star on special teams, and I am glad the coaching staff has that as his main focus going into the season.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

I feel pretty sure the coaches would disagree with that being his main focus, and wouldn't be hating on him as much in defense.

He's probably going to be the #2 dime coverage guy behind Walker.

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#14

I feel pretty sure the coaches would disagree with that being his main focus, and wouldn't be hating on him as much in defense.

He's probably going to be the #2 dime coverage guy behind Walker.

Originally Posted by: beast

Who is hating on him? Gute made it very clear that he was drafted with special teams in mind. I've all but said he has the potential to be a star on special teams. There are some players that are on NFL teams solely to play special teams. Gute said it after the draft. Because you personally feel he will be more of ILB does not make it a fact. They put him in the ILB room because every player has to have a room. Yes, he will be given the chance to show what he has at both S and ILB during this offseason. He said: "I have played safety my whole life, but I know I am going to play some ILB too." Hopefully he becomes a elite player at one or the other someday.

I'm also glad you think so highly of him that you have him on the depth chart at ILB ahead of Barnes, McDuffie, Summers, Wilborn, Brooks, and others. Oh, but I just am not understanding he is a amazing hybrid LB that is going to be the #2 guy going in when in dime. I guess I will have to accept that I am just not as enlightened as you, and Tariq will be the first man on the field and playing several impactful snaps if Walker goes down. I will for sure keep that in mind if Walker gets injured this season.

Again, I am very much looking forward to the actual reality of his impact on special teams.

beast
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2 years ago

#15

I feel like you're clearly and purposely misinterpreting Gute comments to match your own opinion.

Gute think he'll be helpful on STs... that I'm no way means he's thinks the player is a shit burger elsewhere.

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#16

Originally Posted by: beast

Now, come on, you know I feel Tariq is a talented player, just a full-time special teamer. The true "shit burger" on the squad is Jonathan Ford. If they cut that dude tomorrow, I wouldn't even care. I would actually celebrate.

I do hope Ford adds some value to the team at some point. I have nothing against him personally, just still a bit confused on him being at 1265 Lombardi.

wpr
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2 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

There usually isn't much difference between a WR5 and a WR7. ST often is what moves them up or down the depth chart not crispness of routes run or hands.

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#18

There usually isn't much difference between a WR5 and a WR7. ST often is what moves them up or down the depth chart not crispness of routes run or hands.

Originally Posted by: wpr

No one here is a NFL coach or General Manager and decides what moves players up or down the depth chart. I use the WR numbers just as a starting point pecking order in the room. It's obviously going to be very fluid.

The Packers situation at WR is about now and the future. If Toure(WR7) is going to make the roster, he is going to have to show the potential of being a high quality WR in GB for years to come. They want to see if he can play. Want to see if he has a future with the Packers at the position.

Romeo, who is WR5 right now is already a lock for the roster. He could be WR2 or 3 by later this summer.

Playing some on teams are possibilities for both players, but won't factor in them making the roster or not.

With a cat like Carpenter, special teams is why he is even in Green Bay. That isn't the case with Toure.

beast
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2 years ago

#19

No one here is a NFL coach or General Manager and decides what moves players up or down the depth chart.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

Then why are you acting like your one?

When someone else makes a statement, you claim, no one here is an expert... but then your actions do the exact opposite.

With a cat like Carpenter, special teams is why he is even in Green Bay. That isn't the case with Toure.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

This comment is clearly you deciding why players are here... like you're the coach or GM.

You just seem to be consistently acting one way, and then treating other users a different way. I think it rubs people the wrong way, not being consistent.

If Toure(WR7) is going to make the roster, he is going to have to show the potential of being a high quality WR in GB for years to come. They want to see if he can play. Want to see if he has a future with the Packers at the position.

Romeo, who is WR5 right now is already a lock for the roster.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation

If Doubs is #5 and Toure is #7, who's #6?

Heck, who's #1, #2, #3, #4, #6 and #8?

PackersNation
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#20

Then why are you acting like your one?

When someone else makes a statement, you claim, no one here is an expert... but then your actions do the exact opposite.

This comment is clearly you deciding why players are here... like you're the coach or GM.

You just seem to be consistently acting one way, and then treating other users a different way. I think it rubs people the wrong way, not being consistent.

If Doubs is #5 and Toure is #7, who's #6?

Heck, who's #1, #2, #3, #4, #6 and #8?

Originally Posted by: beast

I won't get into you claiming I rub people the wrong way. I really don't see that as relevant or something I give one second of thought to. Some will like me, some won't. I don't care either way. I'm here to talk sports, not to make friends. I have enough friends.

Moving on....

As I said above, I personally use the WR numbers as a starting point pecking order in the room.

You asked for my current top 8, so here you go:

WR1- Lazard
WR2- Watkins
WR3- Watson
WR4- Cobb
WR5- Doubs
WR6- Rodgers
WR7- Toure
WR8- Winfree

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