Pugger
2 years ago

Seahawks supposively want two first for him, as he's young and a great kid.

I seriously doubt the Packets want to trade their draft capital for a guy that needs an expensive new veteran contract soon.

Packers need to go cheap (do to limited cap space) and that's through the draft.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I seriously doubt Seattle wants to trade Metcalf to anybody and especially not to another NFC team.

beast
2 years ago

Wow, so you are defending Metcalf's actions in the Packers game. The Seahawks got owned all day and Metcalf lashed out with a temper tantrum. That isn't being "competitive", that is being a sore loser. You say he was "rightfully ejected", but you also imply he has a right to do what he did because the Seahawks were being shutout, you want him pissed or you think he should be "traded" or "fired." I say, if you are "pissed" about getting beat badly on the field, then play better to change the outcome. A player should NEVER lash out with a temper tantrum. Ridiculous to defend his actions. Would you teach your son to "grab" and "push" the other teams facemasks when he is upset his team is losing?

You "hear the exact opposite" from Russell Wilson on getting along with Metcalf? Wilson also said he didn't want to be traded from the Seahawks. Then forced a trade out of Seattle.

Cool that you are a fan of Metcalf and think he is a "great kid." Good luck with that. Many do not share your opinion of him.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 


What I'm saying is that you lied about him throwing a punch, as no punch was thrown.

He absolutely did throw a temper tantrum where he grabbed other people muliple times and especially with the game basically being over, I thought the refs did the smart thing and got him out of there.


But yes, I'm happy to see passion and players being pissed off when their team is getting killed... instead of just being disengaged or accepting they're a loser.


And Russell Wilson probably didn't want to be traded from the Seahawks, but more importantly to him, was getting away from dictator Pete Carroll (dictator as there is no checks and balances since owner Paul Allen died), Carroll whom doesn't seem to understand modern NFL passing attacks and run the ball for 3 quarters and then ask the QB to dig him out of the hole in the 4th quarter.

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beast
2 years ago

I'm not sure he's defending DK as much as he's explaining what happened based on his opinion. He could also be saying it was an isolated incident in which no one was physically hurt.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Not based on my opinion, but based on the video of what happened. He clearly never threw a punch Stokes. He grabbed two face masks (S Black and CB Stokes), which is against the rules but certainly not a strike. And then with a teammate pushing him back, and Douglas right behind the teammate, he pushes Douglas helmet back.

There was basically zero chance of serious bodily injury such as a single punch would cause. And if we want to start criticizing players for post play pushing every once in a while, that's what 25% or more of the entire NFL? Especially when their unit is being killed out there.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Yeah, if there is indeed another vet worthy of signing. I don't just want to sign another vet just to sign a vet. I'd rather keep some of the cap space for in season moves that need to be made due to injury etc.

If, as you say, the Packers draft 2 WRs early, I could live with a WR room made up of Lazard, Watkins, Olave, Cobb, Christian Watson, and Amari Rodgers. I think that could be a rather formidable group.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



I wouldn't think Packers sign a veteran just to sign one. They're kind of tight against the cap and I believe there could be dead cap weight to a frivolous move like that.

Assuming none of them have a major injury or major drop off in talent, I think these four are going to be on Week 1 53.
WR Allen Lazard
WR Randall Cobb
WR Amari Rodgers
WR Sammy Watkins

I wouldn't be surprised if they kept 7 WR (again), but I'm think 6 is more likely and I think it'll be two rookie WR's or one veteran and one rookie. I am also of the belief that a QB and offensive scheme makes WR's more so than WR makes the QB and/or offensive scheme.

How many WR were considered really good, left their team and flourished elsewhere? I can't think of too many, but can name off a lot who weren't the "same" after moving on. That's another reason I don't really want to see Packers giving up draft capital when they need to get a big younger and deeper.
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PackersNation
2 years ago

Not based on my opinion, but based on the video of what happened. He clearly never threw a punch Stokes. He grabbed two face masks (S Black and CB Stokes), which is against the rules but certainly not a strike. And then with a teammate pushing him back, and Douglas right behind the teammate, he pushes Douglas helmet back.

There was basically zero chance of serious bodily injury such as a single punch would cause. And if we want to start criticizing players for post play pushing every once in a while, that's what 25% or more of the entire NFL? Especially when their unit is being killed out there.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Ok, you can say I'm a liar and recall your own version of the incident, and play semantics over if hitting a helmet or facemask is a "grab" "push" "pull" "punch" or whatever. It's ALL unacceptable to do over being butthurt about a loss. More power to you if you are ok with it. The end. Moving on...

Have a wonderful day!
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2 years ago
Love the "moving on" aspect. After all, as Zero pointed out, this is about Sammy.

Ironically when I started this page I wanted to mention how Florio is so fanatical about spinning anything related to the Green Bay Packers in a negative light.

OF COURSE Mikey, the Packers need more than Watkins. Nobody thought he would be all they need. He's has some dumb comments over the years but this just might be one of his dumbest.
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