dyeah_gb
2 years ago
Love didn't impress or dissapoint in his starts this season. If he does take over as the QB next year, I think it is important to give him a season to make mistakes. The team may potentially miss the playoffs in year 1 and that is ok. It doesnt mean the Pack are back to the 80s. We as fans are lucky to have watched Favre and Rodgers. If Love end up as the starter and fans support him, maybe he will follow a similar path (but with more playoff appearances and less losses).
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Love didn't impress or dissapoint in his starts this season. If he does take over as the QB next year, I think it is important to give him a season to make mistakes. The team may potentially miss the playoffs in year 1 and that is ok. It doesnt mean the Pack are back to the 80s. We as fans are lucky to have watched Favre and Rodgers. If Love end up as the starter and fans support him, maybe he will follow a similar path (but with more playoff appearances and less losses).

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



I'd rather have someone who is consistently 80% as good than someone who wins MVP and then shits himself 9 series in a row when it matters.

A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. We had 9 consecutive weakest links in the playoffs. After all the big talk about "one last run."
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
bboystyle
2 years ago

Yeah, he has. That's why he was drafted high.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He was drafted "high" because the Packers GM is a dud. No one projected Love to go the first round let alone have a team trade up to get him. One of the many blunders of GB front office
bboystyle
2 years ago

Love didn't impress or dissapoint in his starts this season. If he does take over as the QB next year, I think it is important to give him a season to make mistakes. The team may potentially miss the playoffs in year 1 and that is ok. It doesnt mean the Pack are back to the 80s. We as fans are lucky to have watched Favre and Rodgers. If Love end up as the starter and fans support him, maybe he will follow a similar path (but with more playoff appearances and less losses).

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



I concur. He was very underwhelming vs KC. A very mediocre defense.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Love didn't impress or dissapoint in his starts this season. If he does take over as the QB next year, I think it is important to give him a season to make mistakes. The team may potentially miss the playoffs in year 1 and that is ok. It doesnt mean the Pack are back to the 80s. We as fans are lucky to have watched Favre and Rodgers. If Love end up as the starter and fans support him, maybe he will follow a similar path (but with more playoff appearances and less losses).

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



Matt LaFleur also said the Chiefs game plan was built around Aaron Rodgers running the offense. For some reason, they were hopeful he'd be cleared that Saturday and play Sunday. I'm not sure what the game plan would have been for Joran Love, but guessing they would have ran more Love specific plays and plays he's more comfortable with during the week of practice. That might have made him look a bit better vs Chiefs.

I'm more interested in seeing how Love plays this upcoming preseason. Did he improve? Did accuracy improve? Did decision making improve? Did ball placement improve?

As for Aaron Rodgers needing to change his ways. I say trash on that. The man just one back-to-back MVP's and we're going to spout off that he needs to change his ways? The only thing I want Rodgers to change is simply taking what the defense gives you and living another set of downs. Other than that, rock on brotha man!
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beast
2 years ago

I'd rather have someone who is consistently 80% as good than someone who wins MVP and then shits himself 9 series in a row when it matters.

A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. We had 9 consecutive weakest links in the playoffs. After all the big talk about "one last run."

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

And you're making a mega assumption that Love is 80% as good as Rodgers, that we'd even make the playoffs with him, and that he wouldn't shit himself, like he did in his only action so far... that's a lot of assumptions, especially when almost all teams lose in the playoffs, the only team that doesn't is the one that wins the Super Bowl.

He was drafted "high" because the Packers GM is a dud. No one projected Love to go the first round let alone have a team trade up to get him. One of the many blunders of GB front office

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 

Not true, lots of people projected Love to go in the bottom half of the 1st round.

I thought the Patriots would select him, or some team would trade up from the second round into the bottom six picks to get him, which there were some rumors that the Colts were looking into that (which the rumors since appeared to be false). But a number of mocks had Love in the first round.


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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Not true, lots of people projected Love to go in the bottom half of the 1st round.

Originally Posted by: beast 


Sorry, but when you say "people" that means absolutely nothing. Every tom dick an harry is throwing out 80 versions of mock drafts and therefore every mock draft and every projection is utterly pointless and useless. Yes, I have BitterMockDraftFace rolling strong ya'all!!

People who study the college game for a living, those people I will consider, but just "people", nah, no chance. Hell, I can search for college players and throw together projections. I'm people, I'm a no one in the college circuit.

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Cheesey
2 years ago
Not all of the playoff losses were because of Rodgers.
To ignore that is having your "I hate Rodgers" glasses on
Remember the game where the Packers scored over 40 points, yet had to go into overtime? Then Rodgers gets pulled down by his FACEMASK, which the refs ignored? Causing the loss?
How does that go on Rodgers? Then the Montgomery screw up, bringing the ball out of the endzone when he was ordered not too? Or the onside kick screw up ?
That's just a few of the playoff losses.
So solective memory seems to be some people's biggest problem .
All of those playoff losses would have not even been allowed had we not had Rodgers getting us there in the first place.
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beast
2 years ago

Sorry, but when you say "people" that means absolutely nothing.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



So you call me out for saying "People" but you don't commit on the post I was replying to saying "No one"?

If they can say "No one" without an issue, then why the hell can't I say "People" without an issue?

Mock drafts with Jordan Love and I only looked at 2 and found him in both. So he's lying, and you ignore it... but instead you call me out over semantics...

https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2020/04/09/nfl-mock-draft-14-five-rounds-no-trades 

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/raiders/2020-nfl-mock-draft-final-first-round-pick-projections-trades 



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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

So you call me out for saying "People" but you don't commit on the post I was replying to saying "No one"?

If they can say "No one" without an issue, then why the hell can't I say "People" without an issue?

Mock drafts with Jordan Love and I only looked at 2 and found him in both. So he's lying, and you ignore it... but instead you call me out over semantics...

https://www.si.com/.amp/nfl/2020/04/09/nfl-mock-draft-14-five-rounds-no-trades 

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/raiders/2020-nfl-mock-draft-final-first-round-pick-projections-trades 

Originally Posted by: beast 



I do not read every single post. I typically always read yours because I value what you say. I believe I said enough in my post to indicate my tone was not attacking you. If not, my apologies. However, I don't think projections are worth their weight in salt. What I know is the Packers liked a WR or two and a QB when they moved up. They took the QB. In my mind, that means the Packers, a professional organization that scouts college players professionally value him as top 30 prospect from the 2020 collegiate ranks.

Guys like Mel Kiper Jr and Todd McShay, I will put some stock into their projections, but sure as hell won't say a player is going to be a stud because of their analysis. if they were really good at their job, an NFL team would have signed them already, lol. Right? haha
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