bboystyle
3 years ago
I was the biggest Rodgers defender since he started to stink it up in the playoffs vs legit teams and defenses.

Even up to this year he fooled me again and then the Niners game happened.

Fact is he strayed away from spreading the ball and having people earn his trust. Its utter garbage and he can take his 10 points at home in the playoffs and retire or go else where
Cheesey
3 years ago
The Rodgers hate....am I disappointed about how each of the last 3 seasons ended? Yes.
But just think how many teams can only WISH they could have got that far.
You think the Packers would have got that far without him?
I myself am not in a hurry to go back to the 1970s and 1980s.
Yes, I was frustrated with his play in the 49ers game. But would they even gotten to that point without him? And how many of the playoff losses since 2010 were on him as opposed to lapses in the defense or special teams?
In fact, take away the special teams screw ups in the last game, and we would have won.
Football takes an entire team effort to go all the way. And if any of the 3 parts messes up, it can lead to disaster. As of course we saw.
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nerdmann
3 years ago

The Rodgers hate....am I disappointed about how each of the last 3 seasons ended? Yes.
But just think how many teams can only WISH they could have got that far.
You think the Packers would have got that far without him?
I myself am not in a hurry to go back to the 1970s and 1980s.
Yes, I was frustrated with his play in the 49ers game. But would they even gotten to that point without him? And how many of the playoff losses since 2010 were on him as opposed to lapses in the defense or special teams?
In fact, take away the special teams screw ups in the last game, and we would have won.
Football takes an entire team effort to go all the way. And if any of the 3 parts messes up, it can lead to disaster. As of course we saw.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I think we would have gone farther without him. And with Matt's system, we aren't going back to the 80s.

Aaron won the mvp based on hype. I thought he actually sucked for most of this season. Rasul Douglas won the Cardinals game for us. We rode the defense much of the year. Including in the playoff loss.

Aaron was inconsistent this year. Like flipping a switch. Hero ball, flip the switch in the second half to MLF ball. Except he never flipped that switch in the playoffs.
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Cheesey
3 years ago
Matt's system..... I still think you need a better then average QB to run it. And I know it's early, but I don't see Love as the answer.
JMO of course.
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beast
3 years ago

I think we would have gone farther without him.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

And you're either extremely biased and/or nuts...

And with Matt's system, we aren't going back to the 80s.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Over 25% of the NFL is running "Matt's system"... so you still need the right players.

But sure, some seem to believe any player is better than the four time MVP including two times the last year.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
Jordan Love needs another year or maybe two. People are expecting way too much from him and we are all guilty of extrapolating the kids future on virtually nothing substantial.

Aaron Rodgers is our QB and he's who we need. He has another 2-3 elite level years in him, I believe. Give him five year $100 million contract where it looks paid $50 million first two years with last three voidable.
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3 years ago

Aaron Rodgers is our QB and he's who we need. He has another 2-3 elite level years in him, I believe. Give him five year $100 million contract where it looks paid $50 million first two years with last three voidable.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I don't disagree, but doing it this way would do what to improve the salary cap situation. I am not challenging, I am just asking.


Go Packers!!!!
Zero2Cool
3 years ago

I don't disagree, but doing it this way would do what to improve the salary cap situation. I am not challenging, I am just asking.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



It allows him the stupid "highest paid" mantra, while pushing the big bucks throughout five years instead of two years. And it could take his salary cap hit of something like $45 million down to something significantly less. The fact that 2023 is going to see a pretty nice jump with the new TV money is something that is going to help us. Granted, the most the salary cap can increase is about $26 million, it's a good bet that's the amount it will increase. So, if 2022 is projected at $208 million, I would say 2023 will be $234 million.
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bboystyle
3 years ago

I think we would have gone farther without him. And with Matt's system, we aren't going back to the 80s.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 




Not with Love. If we can get someone like Jimmy, we win that game vs. Niners and Chiefs.

Love is not the answer and i hope he isnt forced into being our mediocre QB the next 3 years...
bboystyle
3 years ago

And you're either extremely biased and/or nuts...


Over 25% of the NFL is running "Matt's system"... so you still need the right players.

But sure, some seem to believe any player is better than the four time MVP including two times the last year.

Originally Posted by: beast 




Rodgers is Manning 2.0 with less talent in terms of reading and running an offense.

Shows out during the regular season and then turns limp in the playoffs. We havent been one and done since 2013 and yet here we are. The Lions game was pretty telling on how bad him and the offense was gonna perform. Most shrugged it off as a meaningless game but i saw right through that crap fest and how they couldnt do SQUAT vs Det... And it carried over vs the Niners.
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