nerdmann
2 years ago


Late in Mike McCarthy’s coaching tenure, Rodgers was forced to carry the Packers on his back. This was due to the offense being stale and ineffective. That led to McCarthy being fired and the hiring of Matt LaFleur. He’s done very well in taking the pressure off Aaron with a quarterback-friendly system. Still, despite that, Rodgers feels like he must play hero ball even when he doesn’t need to.

In 2019, the Packers won 13 games despite Aaron Rodgers not playing at an elite level. Rodgers has to accept that the Packers, as of right now under Matt LaFleur, can win games without him having to carry the team. He has to stop putting pressure on himself to do everything when he doesn’t have to anymore. That has to change if the Packers want to be in another Super Bowl.



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“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
2 years ago
1) Bullshit

2) Yes 2019 was so much different and better, the Packers went undefeated in the playoffs until they lost to the 49ers in the playoffs.... whoops 😬 🤔 maybe not so different after all.

Rodgers sucking more on purpose and letting the defense carry the team isn't going to help the team. All players need to do the best they can.

Also you bitch about him not hitting the open guy... and now you're bitching him about hitting Adams too often because he's the one open!

Which is it? Hit the open guy? Or don't go to the same guy too often?

I swear, this is Goldilocks and the TWO Bears... Because there is no middle option.

Rodgers is deemed as shit because the WRs couldn't get open...
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nerdmann
2 years ago

1) Bullshit

2) Yes 2019 was so much different and better, the Packers went undefeated in the playoffs until they lost to the 49ers in the playoffs.... whoops 😬 🤔 maybe not so different after all.

Rodgers sucking more on purpose and letting the defense carry the team isn't going to help the team. All players need to do the best they can.

Also you bitch about him not hitting the open guy... and now you're bitching him about hitting Adams too often because he's the one open!

Which is it? Hit the open guy? Or don't go to the same guy too often?

I swear, this is Goldilocks and the TWO Bears... Because there is no middle option.

Rodgers is deemed as shit because the WRs couldn't get open...

Originally Posted by: beast 


Should I repost the video of him passing up Lazard wide open over the middle?

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
dyeah_gb
2 years ago

1) Bullshit

2) Yes 2019 was so much different and better, the Packers went undefeated in the playoffs until they lost to the 49ers in the playoffs.... whoops 😬 🤔 maybe not so different after all.

Rodgers sucking more on purpose and letting the defense carry the team isn't going to help the team. All players need to do the best they can.

Also you bitch about him not hitting the open guy... and now you're bitching him about hitting Adams too often because he's the one open!

Which is it? Hit the open guy? Or don't go to the same guy too often?

I swear, this is Goldilocks and the TWO Bears... Because there is no middle option.

Rodgers is deemed as shit because the WRs couldn't get open...

Originally Posted by: beast 



Rodgers has underperformed in the playoffs. He is also not the only reason for the dissapointing postseason losses. It is correct though that something needs to change in the way Rodgers handles these high pressure games. He has the skills to be like Tom Brady and just make it look easy. We have seen him do it.
The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - R. Feynman
beast
2 years ago

Should I repost the video of him passing up Lazard wide open over the middle?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Or the video you posted as proof of Rodgers passing over open targets despite the video editor specifically stating the bigger problem was wide receivers weren't getting open?

Congratulations, you can find one or two plays in an entire game where someone isn't perfect, but it's straight up asinine to think that a very small cherry picked plays proves you right when the 90%+ proves you're wrong.
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beast
2 years ago

Rodgers has underperformed in the playoffs. He is also not the only reason for the dissapointing postseason losses. It is correct though that something needs to change in the way Rodgers handles these high pressure games. He has the skills to be like Tom Brady and just make it look easy. We have seen him do it.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 


Yes, but one of the points the article was making it Rodgers should be more like the 2019 Rodgers instead of the 2020 or 2021 Rodgers, which is just stupid.

He has had disappointing playoff losses in all three seasons, so there is no change in that aspect.

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dhazer
2 years ago
Geez I remember alot of times you would hear them say Favre threw him open hell I remember them saying that about Rodgers when he was younger, he would thread the needle to get the guy open but he doesn't do that anymore he is to worried about self accomplishments as we have seen.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Or the video you posted as proof of Rodgers passing over open targets despite the video editor specifically stating the bigger problem was wide receivers weren't getting open?

Congratulations, you can find one or two plays in an entire game where someone isn't perfect, but it's straight up asinine to think that a very small cherry picked plays proves you right when the 90%+ proves you're wrong.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Maybe you missed the other video showing about 10 of them, in which he also states that there were more.

What's asinine is to claim Rodgers doesn't revert to sandlot football, when he's been doing so since 2015.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
2 years ago

Maybe you missed the other video showing about 10 of them, in which he also states that there were more.

What's asinine is to claim Rodgers doesn't revert to sandlot football, when he's been doing so since 2015.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


And who's making that claim that Rodgers doesn't do sandlot plays at times?

I haven't seen anyone state that, and we both agreed that TD run against the Rams was sandlot bullshit.

Also, sandlot was part of Mike McCarthy system of extending the play, so it happened a lot sooner than 2015.

That being said, exactly what more talented QB doesn't do sandlot plays at times? You can name a single one.

What QB doesn't sometimes hold the ball hoping something else will open up?

The BS complaints against Rodgers can be made about any of the best QB in the NFL, because I'm reality, they're more BS complaints about how the results, and not like someone else could actually do better.
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Pugger
2 years ago

Geez I remember alot of times you would hear them say Favre threw him open hell I remember them saying that about Rodgers when he was younger, he would thread the needle to get the guy open but he doesn't do that anymore he is to worried about self accomplishments as we have seen.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Huh? We've seen him thread the needle many times just this past season. All he needs to do is do this in the playoffs.

What makes you believe he is only worried about self accomplishments?
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