yooperfan
2 years ago

At this point, will the bounty really be as rich as Packers fans imagine? By now Rodgers is likely overexposed. Who wants to pay through the nose and mortgage the future for a quarterback who consistently underperforms in the playoffs? Especially after this year's showing, when greater minds than I couldn't help noticing how uninterested Rodgers appeared in the second half, how he looked like he wanted to be anywhere in the world but Lambeau Field in that moment. It was eerily reminiscent of that final playoff game against the Giants, when Favre spent the second half looking like he couldn't wait to retreat into his warm, private locker room.

Last year, I think the Packers could have named their price. After this most recent postseason debacle, not to mention all the offseason drama, not so much.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


Well said!
I agree wholeheartedly.

nerdmann
2 years ago
Didn't realize Denver has that much cap space. They've also interviewed Hackett. I could see it. 


"If you tag and trade Davante Adams and also trade Aaron Rodgers; three first-round picks, two seconds, Jerry Jeudy and Noah Fant maybe? I don’t think that’s out of the question.”


I'd do that trade.
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go.pack.go.
2 years ago

Didn't realize Denver has that much cap space. They've also interviewed Hackett. I could see it. 


I'd do that trade.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I mean that kind of a trade would be enticing. Especially if they throw in Jeudy. I wonder if we could keep guys like Zadarius & re-sign guys like Rasul or Jaire if something like this transpired?

I do love Aaron Rodgers, I’ve been his biggest supporter. But the more I think about it, I wouldn’t be totally sad if he retired, or a trade like this went down. My expectations for the team would be much lower, which would severely lower my stress level.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

I mean that kind of a trade would be enticing. Especially if they throw in Jeudy. I wonder if we could keep guys like Zadarius & re-sign guys like Rasul or Jaire if something like this transpired?

I do love Aaron Rodgers, I’ve been his biggest supporter. But the more I think about it, I wouldn’t be totally sad if he retired, or a trade like this went down. My expectations for the team would be much lower, which would severely lower my stress level.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 


Mine won't be.

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all_about_da_packers
2 years ago

At this point, will the bounty really be as rich as Packers fans imagine? By now Rodgers is likely overexposed. Who wants to pay through the nose and mortgage the future for a quarterback who consistently underperforms in the playoffs? Especially after this year's showing, when greater minds than I couldn't help noticing how uninterested Rodgers appeared in the second half, how he looked like he wanted to be anywhere in the world but Lambeau Field in that moment. It was eerily reminiscent of that final playoff game against the Giants, when Favre spent the second half looking like he couldn't wait to retreat into his warm, private locker room.

Last year, I think the Packers could have named their price. After this most recent postseason debacle, not to mention all the offseason drama, not so much.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



That is a great question - and I think the answer is "yes" if Aaron indicates he's committed to playing 2-3 years more (having a contract paying $45-$50 million per season for a new team would also entice him to continue playing too, I'm sure). To use a basketball analogy: having Aaron Rodgers as your starting QB = being a treadmill team, where the "treadmill" is getting to the playoffs and that's about it. Rodgers, for whatever reason, is not going to get you to a Superbowl - but he definitely gives a team the boost to contend for the playoffs.

There are some teams, I'd imagine, that would be more than happy to accept first/second round playoff exit as their ceiling for the next couple of years - and desperate enough that they are willing to part with some good-to-great draft capital for the allure of "make it to the playoffs and you have a chance to get to the Superbowl" mindset even though it is fleeting with Aaron as your starting QB. Dolphins, Steelers, Browns, Broncos and Colts come to mind. Heck, maybe Washington, Panthers, Falcons or the Saints might be added to the list depending on how the off-season unfolds.

A couple of firsts, a prospect or two (I'd even take full-time special teamers that are good, honestly) and one or two day 2 picks isn't a steep price to pay for a QB that is a walking playoff berth and a 3 year window to "contend" (assuming Rodgers commits to play that long for the new team). If the Packers want to throw in Adams, I'm sure you can get at least an additional day 2 pick.

Especially if the Packers are willing to accept conditions on picks (for example, two round 2 picks that turn to firsts depending on a team reaching the playoffs with Aaron), then I think the haul will be on par with fan's expectations. I'm hoping (praying?) that recent attempts by LaFleur to indicate the team wants Aaron back are just attempts to further shift leverage the Packers' way and not have a team lowball them.
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nerdmann
2 years ago
Rob Demovsky, talking some sense.

Aaron Rodgers Leaving the Green Bay Might Not Be His Decision After Another Lackluster Playoff Loss, According to Packers Insider Rob Demovsky 


Here is the audio from which this article derives.





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go.pack.go.
2 years ago

Mine won't be.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Well my expectations would be low because I feel like at this point, Jordan Love is hot garbage. That could change after a year or two starting but I haven’t liked what I’ve seen from him so far.
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beast
2 years ago
No veterans players with little time left wants to be a part of a rebuild.

Sounds like Rodgers welcomes the idea of returning to the Packers if he doesn't choose to retire and they're trying to win a Superbowl now.
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nerdmann
2 years ago

Well my expectations would be low because I feel like at this point, Jordan Love is hot garbage. That could change after a year or two starting but I haven’t liked what I’ve seen from him so far.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



We've seen one game where he ran the scheme based on Aaron's strengths and tendencies and one half where he ran an Aaron-based screen with scrubs.

Give him another off season. Matt made RG3 look like Joe Montana his rookie year. Let's see what he can do with Love.
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nerdmann
2 years ago
Is he willing to play for the minimum, so we can keep a bunch of guys on defense? Make another run?

"Might come back ."
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